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MJProcko
01-28-2009, 10:10 AM
With the news of Eric Rudolph out of the 45 and into the 59 Bennett owned car and Chris Pastreyak moving up to the WMT in the 59 Darling owned car I wondered where it left Matt Hirschman. Then I saw where Matt is listed for speedweeks in the 59 J&J owned car. (can we put an "X" on atleast one of these 59 cars please). I think I have it straight.

According to Speed 51 Matt is without a ride for the 2009 season any insight here from anyone?

RichKeator
01-28-2009, 01:08 PM
the split took place right after the world series if i remember correctly... heres Courchesne's blog back in october


http://blogs.courant.com/autoracing/2008/10/paradise-lost-ugly-split-betwe.html

MJProcko
01-28-2009, 02:06 PM
I remember that, but I had not heard of him not being with Darling until the Rudolph thing. I didn't even know there was a J&J #59 out there. I doubt he'd make all the races in the #60.

MJProcko
01-28-2009, 02:15 PM
speaking of #59 mods, does anyone know which #59 David Cramner is driving at NSS?

Modifiedthunder
01-28-2009, 05:15 PM
Darling told Matty that he could only run half of the races this year after Bennett dropped him and that they could not run the full WMT schedule. Are they running a full season with Chris if so then maybe Chris came with sponsors and or some $$$ ?

chrome horn
01-28-2009, 06:42 PM
MJ, the J&J 59 is the orange and black one he drove at Lee and won the tv race at twin statesPHOTO HERE (http://www.racerhub.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=97241)

fastbackss
01-28-2009, 07:12 PM
I believe that the Cranmer 59 is a self-owned ride (http://www.cranmerengineering.com/). I imagine is the same one he piloted last year...

*edit - or not, he ran with the SK's last year in FL*

*edit 2 - I know he ran a bunch of races last year, but this is the only one I could find - ASA 7/12 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/allracing/2669794493/in/set-72157606177878093/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/allracing/2669819431/in/set-72157606177878093/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/allracing/2669810639/in/set-72157606177878093/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/allracing/2669786261/in/set-72157606177878093/

limodmaniac
01-28-2009, 07:20 PM
If Matt Hirschman can't get a ride on the Whelen Tour, then something is very wrong with the Whelen tour.

The guy wins in 4 different cars last year. Hmmm, maybe it has something to do with the driver. Pretty impressive stuff.

Guess the only way to get a Whelen ride is to come with money in your pocket.

I know I won't be pulling for the new 59 teams on the Whelen tour this year.

worm
01-28-2009, 08:38 PM
is there any driver on the tour these day that gets paid to drive,there is way to much to spend and no return,plus almost no one works on there car,and if they do they think they should get paid to do so.

bru-races
01-28-2009, 08:51 PM
I"m the kid will end up some where some how. There's no way he shouldn't be in some one's ride. Heck if I had the ride I would put him in it. Haven't seen anyone get around Concord motorsports park like that kid.

SUfan
01-28-2009, 10:05 PM
With the news of Eric Rudolph out of the 45 and into the 59 Bennett owned car and Chris Pastreyak moving up to the WMT in the 59 Darling owned car I wondered where it left Matt Hirschman. Then I saw where Matt is listed for speedweeks in the 59 J&J owned car. (can we put an "X" on atleast one of these 59 cars please). I think I have it straight.

According to Speed 51 Matt is without a ride for the 2009 season any insight here from anyone?


This week's Area Auto Racing news has quotes from both Chris Pasteryak and Matt Hirschman about the situation.

mattphoto
01-29-2009, 09:19 AM
the tour would not be the same with Matt Hirschman

Rabbit504
01-29-2009, 04:28 PM
is there any driver on the tour these day that gets paid to drive,there is way to much to spend and no return,plus almost no one works on there car,and if they do they think they should get paid to do so.

I think you would be amazed at how many drivers and crew members get paid on the WMT.

Not that they are getting rich, but many are getting paid.

MJProcko
01-29-2009, 09:43 PM
Matt in the 28 would be a pretty good combo, I heard the 0 and 06 could be open also.

mattphoto
01-29-2009, 09:54 PM
what would happen to billy pauch ???

Modifiedthunder
01-29-2009, 10:22 PM
From Area Auto News:
Matt said Darling could only run half the WMT about two weeks ago I had a ride offer that might have worked in splitting the schedule with the Darling team. But Wayne felt he needed a driver that could help offset the expenses of running half the WMT schedule. Matty went on a said Wayne and I both agreed that there was no hard feelings between us and he wished them the best.

So it sounds like to me the driver with more of the $$$ got the ride, its a shame but you here this all the time in all kinds of racing these days!

Rabbit504
01-30-2009, 05:50 AM
Matt in the 28 would be a pretty good combo, I heard the 0 and 06 could be open also.

28 is a Raceworks.
Hirschmans are a Troyer outlet.
Maybe he will only drive what they fix and sell.
The same reason Reggie didn't drive on the Tour for a number of years

KyleMac45
01-30-2009, 08:11 AM
Wasn't Cramner from the north? Or is there a different person? Dave Cramner was his name... He ran a 59 car at Wall... And that picture looks exactly like his.... Just Wondering



Kyle

MJProcko
01-30-2009, 01:10 PM
I didn't realize that Hirschman was a troyer outlet. He should be in the troyer house car then.

What about the 19? did they get a driver yet? are they a troyer?

mattphoto
01-30-2009, 02:01 PM
I didn't realize that Hirschman was a troyer outlet. He should be in the troyer house car then.

What about the 19? did they get a driver yet? are they a troyer?

what happened to Jimmy Blewett

The Bullfather
01-30-2009, 03:20 PM
More like what happened with Eddie Partiridge and the 19? Jimmy still races for Eddie and will go back to the 12 car on the tour.

Tucknut
01-30-2009, 03:32 PM
The 12 will have the new Troyer body.

Brian Hawks
01-30-2009, 05:55 PM
The 12 will have the new Troyer body.

Any pics of this ????

Fkraft99
01-30-2009, 06:22 PM
the 12 sk will be the new style troyer in fla. i believe the tour car will be a new homemade style body for the season but its your basic body for florida. Sorry i have no pics of the sk to post on here but it looks pretty outrageous to say the least.

Jill
01-31-2009, 06:04 PM
Wasn't Cramner from the north? Or is there a different person? Dave Cramner was his name... He ran a 59 car at Wall... And that picture looks exactly like his.... Just Wondering



Kyle

Yes, it is the Dave Cramner that raced at Wall.

ericb160
02-01-2009, 10:31 AM
Sorry i have no pics of the sk to post on here but it looks pretty outrageous to say the least.


Can't wait to see it!!!