View Full Version : NASCAR Touring Division Banquets Out Of Connecticut; New Banquet In North Carolina
ShawnCourchesne
04-09-2009, 09:21 AM
Two NASCAR Touring Division Banquets Out Of Connecticut; Replaced With New Banquet In North Carolina ( http://blogs.courant.com/autoracing/2009/04/two-nascar-banquets-out-of-con.html)
Bobby1717
04-09-2009, 10:41 AM
Good to see that Nascar added another expense for teams and fans. I just don't understand their way of thinking. The WMT prodominately runs in the northeast. So lets inconvience close to 1000 team members and fans from the northeast instead of the dozen or so that needs to travel up from Nascar.
I know the Hills travel up all the time but hopefully my point was made.
holleratme
04-09-2009, 11:05 AM
Could not have said better Bobby.
One of the best facilities in the backyard of the tracks that support us and we go on the road........ Best attended banquet also. OK LETS MOVE IT:mad:
kja819
04-09-2009, 12:41 PM
All I have to say is "You can't fix stupid"
SteveS
04-09-2009, 12:58 PM
Hey, I know. This is so that Mike Helton can actually show up in person instead of sending a generic cheeseball video- Yeah, thats the ticket. This is clearly a move to save Nascar money and stick to the tour yet again, ain't that a shock!
Modman75
04-09-2009, 01:10 PM
Good to see that Nascar added another expense for teams and fans. I just don't understand their way of thinking. The WMT prodominately runs in the northeast. So lets inconvience close to 1000 team members and fans from the northeast instead of the dozen or so that needs to travel up from Nascar.
I know the Hills travel up all the time but hopefully my point was made.
NASCAR probably doesn't intend for 1000 team members and fans to attend these banquets. These will turn out to be an invite only affairs with only the drivers and owners in attendance, similiar to the other banquets that they host.
The location will move at least one more time once the Hall of Fame is concluded so that they can have them there for free.
Bob T. Racer
04-09-2009, 02:41 PM
Hey, I know. This is so that Mike Helton can actually show up in person instead of sending a generic cheeseball video- Yeah, thats the ticket. This is clearly a move to save Nascar money and stick to the tour yet again, ain't that a shock!
Who wants to bet that Helton does't even show!
the week after the shoot out, good luck. ill go to the shoot out
MJProcko
04-09-2009, 05:47 PM
NASCAR has bean counters in places of authority and could care less about anyone's bottom line but there own.
They turned there back on their own, left the South, because they didn't have enough money to bring the sport up to a lifestyle that they wanted to get accustomed to. So don't expect them to care about a bunch of "yankees" who are happy for the scraps they get.
Having a "yes man" for a tour director who is towing the coporate line until he can get an office back in Daytona does not help either.
Nascar and the modifieds could be a great thing once again, even better, I'm optimistic that they will see the light.... ok dreaming perhaps, but hey, about those watches....
BigMac
04-09-2009, 06:08 PM
Isn't that the day after Staffords traditional banquet? I think everybody is making this a nascar vs modified thing but they are sticking it to all the tours. Nobody wins here. Nascar must have spent all their money on thoses watches. The casino was the perfect location for the mods. What a shame.
WMT10
04-09-2009, 09:44 PM
Sometimes I wonder why we support this series when they do STUPID stuff like this.
All but one team is from the northeast why have a banquet in the south?
They want us to be like the Cup cars?? Start paying us like them
Everyone should let them know right now they will not be attending!
Sad, sad, sad.
WMT10
04-09-2009, 10:09 PM
Jaws,
Think they care?? NOPE
Probably not, it is sad they move this closer to home (For them).
They have whhat 15 full time teams on the South tour and 30 plus on the north tour but where is the banquet NC?
Makes no sense.
PitGirl35
04-09-2009, 10:20 PM
This sucks. Everyone always has a good time hanging out by the waterfall bar before the banquet begins catching up with one another and talking about what next season will bring. It brings everyone together during the middle of the off season and now they are taking that away. Not to mention, it also helps relieve the stress of the holiday season. I know this is very far fetched, but too bad the drivers, owners, crew members, and fans couldn't get together and have their own banquet. Take up a collection of money over the season and figure out a central location for where the banquet could be held. I know it is all wishful thinking, but one can hope.
stefanikfan
04-09-2009, 10:35 PM
This sucks. Everyone always has a good time hanging out by the waterfall bar before the banquet begins catching up with one another and talking about what next season will bring. It brings everyone together during the middle of the off season and now they are taking that away. Not to mention, it also helps relieve the stress of the holiday season. I know this is very far fetched, but too bad the drivers, owners, crew members, and fans couldn't get together and have their own banquet. Take up a collection of money over the season and figure out a central location for where the banquet could be held. I know it is all wishful thinking, but one can hope.
Exactly what I was thinking! Screw nascar.:mad:
Sicklajoie
04-09-2009, 11:07 PM
Just who the frick thinks of stuff like this??
How much more narrow-minded can NASCAR get??
TJ1976
04-10-2009, 05:07 AM
Any chance the teams could petition against NASCAR and tell them what they can do with their banquet?
MJProcko
04-10-2009, 09:11 AM
It's awful nice of the good folks at Nascar to put on this banquet in the heart of Nascar, Charlotte NC. They do so much for the teams all year long and this is just the icing on the cake. It's good to know that after a whole season of putting license fees, pit pass and lower purse money back into their pockets that Nascar will fly in the teams from all over the country, put them up in hotels, and give them a feast worthy of celebrating the cars, stars and good folks that make up the backbone of their business, the short track racing family. Folks who braved these hard economic times to do what they love with a passion and keep Nascar in business.
I am truly suprised by some of the reactions on here, the negativity from some on here just suprises me and it is truly sad..... why are you all looking at me like that?
Did I miss something?
Oh, Nascar is forcing all the teams to get to NC on their own dime.... to quote the late great Gilda Radner.... "Nevermind."
MXCHAMP04
04-10-2009, 11:10 AM
I think this is just an early move to move the tour more to the south. Heck, they already have martinsville, now bristol, and who knows what next. It sort of screams, combine the two tours in the south, and run on the same wekends as the cup guys. I fear this is where they are going.
RGeeProductions
04-10-2009, 11:34 AM
I think this is just an early move to move the tour more to the south. Heck, they already have martinsville, now bristol, and who knows what next. It sort of screams, combine the two tours in the south, and run on the same wekends as the cup guys. I fear this is where they are going.
I disagree with you on that theory. Martinsville has been on the tour since 1985 and the tours beginnings. Combo races in a few of the touring series' has come and gone over the years. The then 'Busch' and 'Busch North' series' had many combo events many years ago. Also, they can not run the same weekend as Cup at some tracks as there would be no room for the teams, besides the fact that there are not enough small Cup tracks for the mods to run. Take Bristol, why do you think they are running on a Wednesday. They need to clear the infield for the Cup on that weekend as there is no room for all the teams to be there at one time. Plus I feel that at least 1/2 the northern teams would just drop out of racing if they had to travel south for 1/2 the season. Again, dollars and sense.....
I think NASCAR is just trying to trim their costs of the award banquets but putting the strain now on the teams involved. If they still do the top 10, I think only the top 3 or 5 may show up for this as it won't make financial sense to the other teams. This award banquet will be at least 10 hours long!!!! JMO
scott
04-10-2009, 04:23 PM
Why not just don't go? Use the $$ that would have been spent on traveling to Concord to rent a banquet hall or room and tell Nascar to ship the trophies to that site. Heck with them, basically that's what they've been telling us. After all we're just a stepping stone or whatever they want to call it.
This will be an invited guests only basis, so it looks like the everyone is invited party that everyone here enjoyed is gone.
Who is up for organizing a party to say thank you to everyone who was involved with the tour in 2009?
I have never attended one but from what I have heard its a blast that will be missed.
Man, I should have gone last year!
rydogg97
04-11-2009, 08:39 AM
as was said by jaws what needs to happen is that there needs to be someone or a group that can set up something for the tour locally. obviously the tour has ties with the venue its been held at so why not gauge everyones intrest and get prices which would be cheaper than travel south and keep money local. then when no one shows in nc it might show a little strength to nascar or they may not care at all but the best touring series guys will have thier night to shine!! this is just my opinion about how to handle it.
Bob T. Racer
04-11-2009, 10:17 AM
Knowing NASCAR , they'll make it mandatory to go if you want your year end point money check from them.
talk about point fund $ camping world east and west has over 1million $ point fund money for 2009 , the wmt 298,000 and wsmt 91,500. give the mods more $
as was said by jaws what needs to happen is that there needs to be someone or a group that can set up something for the tour locally. obviously the tour has ties with the venue its been held at so why not gauge everyones intrest and get prices which would be cheaper than travel south and keep money local. then when no one shows in nc it might show a little strength to nascar or they may not care at all but the best touring series guys will have thier night to shine!! this is just my opinion about how to handle it.
The only problem with that is Nascar would love an excuse to shut down the division and they would surely use that when exsplaining how they found a huge sponsor with a television package for the Camping World East series.
Do you think they would have the same crowd at The Icebreaker with the Camping world cars instead of the modifieds?? I don't think so. How THompson dropped 2 races is beyond me, it seems that Tour Mods=licence to print money there.
How about a party at the Thompson or Stafford clubhouses? Don't even bill it as a baquet just a party to celebrate the season? Get a couple of unofficial sponsors to buy awards, food, a band and a good time by all. Don't schedule against Nascar just do it.
ThE sHaDoW
04-11-2009, 10:58 AM
The only problem with that is Nascar would love an excuse to shut down the division and they would surely use that when exsplaining how they found a huge sponsor with a television package for the Camping World East series.
Do you think they would have the same crowd at The Icebreaker with the Camping world cars instead of the modifieds?? I don't think so. How THompson dropped 2 races is beyond me, it seems that Tour Mods=licence to print money there.
How about a party at the Thompson or Stafford clubhouses? Don't even bill it as a baquet just a party to celebrate the season? Get a couple of unofficial sponsors to buy awards, food, a band and a good time by all. Don't schedule against Nascar just do it.
I'll bring the grill.
I'll bring the grill.
Thats 1 who's next?
KyleMac45
04-11-2009, 12:13 PM
I'll bring the Coca Cola for all those who are under 21... :cheers:
Howie
04-11-2009, 12:21 PM
I'll bring the Coca Cola for all those who are under 21... :cheers:
Discriminating against old people are ya??
KyleMac45
04-11-2009, 03:05 PM
No not at all Howie! But those under 21 I.E. Little Jaws, Myself, Ryan Preece... Just to name a few. How about Mr.Silk can bring the adult beverages! :cheers: :D
Howie
04-11-2009, 04:35 PM
No not at all Howie! But those under 21 I.E. Little Jaws, Myself, Ryan Preece... Just to name a few. How about Mr.Silk can bring the adult beverages! :cheers: :D
I know you'll find this hard to believe Kyle, but there are actually people over 21 that don't drink "adult beverages". That's what I was saying. That's OK, I'll bring Coca Cola for the people over 21. :lol::cheers:
holleratme
04-11-2009, 04:52 PM
the week after the shoot out, good luck. ill go to the shoot out
Damn straight I'll take the Kepley's and the Shootout rather than Helton any day:applause:
holleratme
04-11-2009, 04:58 PM
How about the picnic in September at Louden be the mid season banquet than have one at the Thompson clubhouse after the last race.
Come as you are and have a good time
KyleMac45
04-11-2009, 05:23 PM
I know you'll find this hard to believe Kyle, but there are actually people over 21 that don't drink "adult beverages". That's what I was saying. That's OK, I'll bring Coca Cola for the people over 21. :lol::cheers:
Aha! Sorry there bud! Burgers, coke, and a pair of jeans? That sounds like a nice banquet!
I know you'll find this hard to believe Kyle, but there are actually people over 21 that don't drink "adult beverages".
and then again, there are people that do!
Howie
04-11-2009, 05:41 PM
and then again, there are people that do!
And I'm sure there will be plenty of their favorite beverage there too, just as it should be!! :cheers:
BTW - I notice eating a bagel puts a twinkle in your eye, interesting! :)
rydogg97
04-11-2009, 07:35 PM
well this sounds like a great start of something that could be fun.
tour28
04-11-2009, 08:13 PM
O.K. -- If Howie and Kyle bring Coke there should be enough for me (maybe) . I'll bring whatever is needed. Nascar has made a very poor decision moving the tour banquet. I could have a lot more to say but I won't at this time. Shame on you Nascar, wake up !
Bob T. Racer
04-11-2009, 09:30 PM
The only problem with that is Nascar would love an excuse to shut down the division and they would surely use that when exsplaining how they found a huge sponsor with a television package for the Camping World East series.
Do you think they would have the same crowd at The Icebreaker with the Camping world cars instead of the modifieds?? I don't think so. How THompson dropped 2 races is beyond me, it seems that Tour Mods=licence to print money there.
How about a party at the Thompson or Stafford clubhouses? Don't even bill it as a baquet just a party to celebrate the season? Get a couple of unofficial sponsors to buy awards, food, a band and a good time by all. Don't schedule against Nascar just do it.
Had a beer with Donald at the clubhouse last friday night and he explained to me why he only has 3 races this year. This might be a surprise to you all, but it seems NASCAR tried to tell him how to run his 300 weekend.When it was all said and done, he told them he didn't want to do the other race either.
Had a beer with Donald at the clubhouse last friday night and he explained to me why he only has 3 races this year. This might be a surprise to you all, but it seems NASCAR tried to tell him how to run his 300 weekend.When it was all said and done, he told them he didn't want to do the other race either.
Thats sad, we lost 2 good races this year at Thompson, the Mansfield race, Wall will probably never have another tour race unless a big time sponsor shows up. I would say 3 more at Riverhead, Chemung and Spencer are on shakey ground at best and Martinsville can't be too far behind if they do not get more fans this year.
For 2010 we need to add back the 2 Thompson races somehow add a stand alone at NH, add a race at Shangra la II and no matter where it is get a 300 race back. Plus somehow find a sponsor to upgrade the "Flash "races.
By the way whatever happened to lap sponsors?
O.K. -- If Howie and Kyle bring Coke there should be enough for me (maybe) . I'll bring whatever is needed. Nascar has made a very poor decision moving the tour banquet. I could have a lot more to say but I won't at this time. Shame on you Nascar, wake up !
That is definitely still not enough coca cola for you! :wave:
I have to agree, I'm disappointed. The banquet at Mohegan was a ton of fun and something to look forward to. It was also a great way to recognize EVERYONE who is a part of our series, not just the select few who will be invited to the new banquet.
TnLRacing
04-12-2009, 10:45 AM
O.K. -- If Howie and Kyle bring Coke there should be enough for me (maybe) . I'll bring whatever is needed. Nascar has made a very poor decision moving the tour banquet. I could have a lot more to say but I won't at this time. Shame on you Nascar, wake up !
I agree with KLC there still wouldn't be enough coke for you!! Who is bringing the swedish fish appetizers? I will bring the stuffed breads
mtlmodfan
04-12-2009, 06:06 PM
This future banquet, is it open to modified fans too, or just drivers, families, sponsors etc?
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