Where is everyone?

[micro60t]

Seems like this message board has been quiet since the reunion? I had a great time on Saturday and enjoyed talking to people I have'nt seen in a while. It was like old times with all the people that were there having a good time along with some great racing!

[White Lightnin]

I'm just waiting for you to post some more pictures from the Spencer era. I have a lot of photos from back then too but my scanner at work scans them too large for the web site.

[witchin8]

white lightnin you can go here... (http://www.picresize.com/) and get them resized for free as long as you have a digital copy (the scanned image) on that computer.

[micro60t]

Ask and you shall receive! Photographer unknown

[White Lightnin]

Now we're talking! :applause:

#37 Roy Kunkel & Mr. Excitement - should be from 1979

The New Evergreen Speedway's photographer was Art Lombardo

[johnjr531]

hey micro please put more on i really enjoy your awsome picture!!:wave:

[White Lightnin]

Actually, Roy Kunkel took the 1977 New Evergreen Speedway Modified title with that #37 straight up old dirt car. It was referred to as the Sportsman class back then.

[micro60t]

I remember this one well. I am even in the picture!

[kyle06]

Wow! I'm guessing that's Gus Lewis in the air? That's quite a shot!

[White Lightnin]

Wow! I'm guessing that's Gus Lewis in the air? That's quite a shot!

That is Gus Lewis in his Late Model back in 1979. He took the New Evergreen Speedway Late Model title with that year. What, in the world, is he doing running it with the Modifieds? I would assume that is Terry Markovic in the #92 Modified.

[White Lightnin]

Wow! I'm guessing that's Gus Lewis in the air? That's quite a shot!


Looking at those massive old bleachers on the hillside reminds me of the 1979 CAM 2 Race Of Champions qualifier at Evergreen. Those stands were so packed, that night, that 5 of us had a hard time finding seats together. My, how things have changed.

[intense1]

You should have been at the Reunion, W.L.
We waited as long as we could, but had to start without you:(

[kyle06]

I can remember the Joie Chitwood Thrill Show coming to Evergreen - 1992, I think it was - and the hillside was packed then too! Last Saturday's Reunion crowd was excellent - great to see so many people come out.

[White Lightnin]

You should have been at the Reunion, W.L.
We waited as long as we could, but had to start without you:(

You couldn't pack that hill at a buck a head.

[Geno]

You missed a great show Bob....sorry you missed it:(

Please keep those memories/photos coming!:applause:

[micro60t]

Here's something a little different.

[White Lightnin]

Here's something a little different.

This picture, of Richie Jensen's #67 Late Model was taken on Sept 11, 1981 at The New Evergreen Speedway. Bugsy Spencer held a special Modified/Late Model combination race. The Late Models were allowed to remove their fenders for this show so Richie made a one off hood that worked without the fenders. You would think that a Late Model wouldn't stand up very well to the full blown Modifieds of Tony Hirschman, Tony Siscone, Gus Lewis, Magee Miller and Johnny Crawford Jr. but this was Richie Jensen. He wound up winning that race with his Late Model.:applause:

[Geno]

The thing about Richie is that along with being a great driver he's always been a great craftsman. Quite the machinist!:cheers:

[White Lightnin]

The thing about Richie is that along with being a great driver he's always been a great craftsman. Quite the machinist!:cheers:


I still say Richie was the absolute best that ever came out of this track. He built his first Late Model in 79 and took the 80 title with 11 wins. He then built his second Late Model, that you see in this last photo, and won the 81 title also with 11 wins. In 82 he home built a Modified of his own design. He won 5 times that year including an open comp race. Tony Siscone came in second to Richie that day driving #14 "Big Red". After New Evergreen closed he won something like 7 Late Model championships down on the 1/2 mile dirt of Selinsgrove Speedway.

He even brought that 410 alcohol burning dirt Late Model to Evergreen in 89, put slicks on it, and lapped the field in the Late Model/Street Stock Shootout.

[micro60t]

Here's one that is not the best of quality, but is still a good oldie.

[Geno]

Have to apologize that things are a little late being updated this week! With that said, I've been on a search for this guy- anyone know who he is (Bob)?....

[White Lightnin]

Have to apologize that things are a little late being updated this week! With that said, I've been on a search for this guy- anyone know who he is (Bob)?....


The guy on the right is Mark Magda but the ugly sucka on the left eludes me at this moment. :lol::lol::lol:

[White Lightnin]

Here's one that is not the best of quality, but is still a good oldie.

Vestal New York's Jim Zacharias

[NeetsAnnouncer33]

Gene you look so beautiful in that picture hahhahha can't wait to have you back buddy.

[micro60t]

Hey White Lightnin, I'm surprised that you only named one of the drivers in the last photo. The black #9 is none other than Barefoot Bob McCreadie! He made that dirt car work well against the more sleek Troyer cars back then, and actually had the points lead for a brief time.

[White Lightnin]

Hey White Lightnin, I'm surprised that you only named one of the drivers in the last photo. The black #9 is none other than Barefoot Bob McCreadie! He made that dirt car work well against the more sleek Troyer cars back then, and actually had the points lead for a brief time.

Your picture was a little fuzzy, I'm a little fuzzy and I was thinking it was a #7 car so I went blank on you :)

Do you remember the white #1 Price Brothers Special that McCreedie brought to the ROC qualifier later in that 1980 season? What a weapon that was. Won 2 features in one night.

[micro60t]

Here is a picture of that car that I got out of the 1980 ROC program book from Pocono. I remember that car very well. If my memory is correct, McCreadie won a make up feature from a rainout race and then won the 50 lap CAM2 ROC qualifier that same night! :applause:

[White Lightnin]

The ROC race started the week before and rained out after a few laps so they continued the race from the lap that it was postponed. MCreedie had originally started in the back of this 50 lapper and ran through the field to take the lead. While leading he tangled with a lapped car and had to restart in the back once again. He passed every car, once again, and retook the lead to win the qualifier. The 50 lapper was one of Bugsy's open comp races so the bigger motors could come in so the normal Small Block Modified rules were not enforced. McCreedie had to make his car Evergreen legal to race the regular nightly points feature. I know he had to put some floorboards in it. He used a highway sign to make it legal. He started in the rear of that one also, due to handicapping, and came out on top of that race too. I remember that he brought his *9 dirt car in as a back up car. His little ground hugger #1 pavement car never came back, after those races, and neither did McCreedie

[White Lightnin]

Just noticed something in the victory lane photo. McCreedie's air cleaner is gone. The car he tangled with, that caused him to go to the rear of the field, was the Hilbert #45 coupe of Freddy Hamm. Hamm's car went over the top of McCreedie's car tearing off his air cleaner.

[micro60t]

A different version of the 45 :cool:

[kyle06]

Ah, the Hilbert Chevelle. Though not as beloved as the coupe, this was always one of my favorite cars - nice, plain and simple look, the kind of stuff that's missing a lot today. Thanks so much for sharing these great pics, guys! :cheers:

[White Lightnin]

Ah, the Hilbert Chevelle. Though not as beloved as the coupe, this was always one of my favorite cars - nice, plain and simple look, the kind of stuff that's missing a lot today. Thanks so much for sharing these great pics, guys! :cheers:

That #45 doesn't look anything like a Chevelle. :rolleyes:Your slipping there, Kyle. :lol:

[kyle06]

Maybe I meant Chevette? I know it's not a Pinto - I called it a Pinto once before and I was corrected. Think I need some sleep! :D

[White Lightnin]

Maybe I meant Chevette? I know it's not a Pinto - I called it a Pinto once before and I was corrected. Think I need some sleep! :D


Chevette it was, Kyle.

[kyle06]

Whew...saved me from having to guess "Corvette" next! :lol:

[micro60t]

One of the Jersey boys! I really liked this car.

[White Lightnin]

One of the Jersey boys! I really liked this car.


The driver's name has been right on the edge of my fuzzy memory all morning but, right or wrong, I'm going to say it is a Mike Stephens. :help:

[micro60t]

Pretty good for a fuzzy memory!!!:applause:

[White Lightnin]

Pretty good for a fuzzy memory!!!:applause:

Ya, but that and a buck won't even buy you a coffee these days. :cheers:

[micro60t]

Time for another. (Art Lombardo photo)

[White Lightnin]

Allentown's Ed Lilly in his Dorney Park championship coupe.

[micro60t]

Here is a good variety of cars! (Art Lombardo photo) Gotta love these cars!!!

[kyle06]

Ed Lilly and Peepers Yerger on the inside. Who's that Vega Wagon?

[micro60t]

The #5 Vega wagon is Butch Balliet in the former Roy Kunkle car.

[White Lightnin]

I kept my mouth shut, this time, hoping someone else wanted to play too. I should have known it would be Kyle. :lol:

Still there are only about 6 of us playing the game. I have a lot of fond memories of New Evergreen Speedway. Gee, what ever happened to that place? :disgusted


#5 Butchie Balliet in the Wilber Shuman entry - I believe they ran this on the dirt at Big Diamond too.

#777 John "Peepers" Yerger in the Shamrock Special - Peepers was the 1979 Small Block Modified Champion in this car at Evergreen. Anyone remember the car that replaced this one? A crazy looking Camaro Modified with an automatic transmission.

In 1980, the Troyer brigade came to town and that was the end of the straight front axle Modified era.

[pv18]

I have to tell you... I check on this thread daily. I wish I could chime in but you are all playing way before my time. Please keep the pics coming, many are watching.

[2crew]

same way here. I love seeing all the cars and what the track looked like prior to my time...

[micro60t]

This might test your memory! (can you name them)?

[White Lightnin]

This might test your memory! (can you name them)?


Well the white 60/over is Doug Hoffman but you got me on the blue Nova. It looks like one of Al Hewitt's old cars.


There was a real love/hate relationship with those big Elucid tires, used as guard rails, on the back stretch

[micro60t]

Al Hewitt had the car after this person. I know Kyle will know this driver, but how about someone else getting it?

[StrandRaceway]

How about Bobby Becker?

[White Lightnin]

How about Bobby Becker?


We may have a winner :cheers:

[micro60t]

Yes, Bob Becker is the correct answer!

[micro60t]

Here was another top runner whenever he raced.

[White Lightnin]

Here was another top runner whenever he raced.

OK this could go 1 of 2 ways. I started going to the track in 1979 and the #28, that I remember from that year, was the Whales Pinto of Tony Siscone. This is not it but could be an earlier version.

The only other "guess" would be the #28 of Ralph Broschard

[micro60t]

I am not sure of the year on this picture either, however I do know that the driver is Tony Siscone. It is hard to see on here, but Siscone had his last name painted on his helmet.

[White Lightnin]

I am not sure of the year on this picture either, however I do know that the driver is Tony Siscone. It is hard to see on here, but Siscone had his last name painted on his helmet.

I'll have to check with some of the Jersey boys that I talk to from Wall. I'm sure that they would know. I do know that in 1979, while Tony Siscone had some feature wins driving the Whales #28 Pinto, Ralph Broschard also won earlier that year in his own #28 car.

[micro60t]

Here is a little different trivia. I am between the two girls, can you name them and the car that we are standing in front of ?

[StrandRaceway]

That,s easy, Jeff Rex.

[White Lightnin]

Here is a little different trivia. I am between the two girls, can you name them and the car that we are standing in front of ?


Let's see what all of this thinking on the way to work has gotton me.

Tiffany Harman, Jeff Rex's Reb's Pallet #61 and Jennifer Bachman?

[Geno]

Actually, Tiffany Buchman (now):)

Keep the old pix coming! Nice meeting you on Saturday micro60T:wave:

[White Lightnin]

Actually, Tiffany Buchman (now):)

I knew that, Geno - I was testing ya :D

[Grandstand]

Not Jenn Bachman.... But her first name was Jenn....can't remember the last name.... I believe that she passed away in a car accident....

[White Lightnin]

Not Jenn Bachman.... But her first name was Jenn....can't remember the last name.... I believe that she passed away in a car accident....

I remember Jen was involved in a fatal auto accident. The name Miller sticks in my head also. Was she ever married? Could Bachman and Miller both be right?

[micro60t]

This was a wild ride! (Art Lombardo photo)

[White Lightnin]

This was a wild ride! (Art Lombardo photo)

The #89 Late Model of Tom Luchi Jr. :wave:

[Chuck Schartzer]

Jen's married name was Millar and yes she was killed in a car accident in Missouri while visting her brother..she missed a stop sign and was hit buy a feed truck suffering a broken neck. :( The night prior to her leaving for Missouri she represented Evergreen Speedway at the late Keith Kocher's mom & dad's bar in Palmerton.

[White Lightnin]

Jen's married name was Millar and yes she was killed in a car accident in Missouri while visting her brother..she missed a stop sign and was hit buy a feed truck suffering a broken neck. :( The night prior to her leaving for Missouri she represented Evergreen Speedway at the late Keith Kocher's mom & dad's bar in Palmerton.

I still have that Jen memorial sticker that I got from you way back when.

[Chuck Schartzer]

I still have mine also

[modslive]

that is not jeff rex but this guy did race and old style mod. @ mahoning .in the early 90's.and he is from lehighton and i cant remember his name.

[White Lightnin]

that is not jeff rex but this guy did race and old style mod. @ mahoning .in the early 90's.and he is from lehighton and i cant remember his name.

If your talking about the guy in the photo, that is MICRO60T, who is posting all of the old pictures. The car, in the photo, was Jeff Rex's #61. :wave:

[micro60t]

This was my car from 1987. Could never get it to handle right. I only ran it a few times and sold it. Best feature finish was a 14th. It was destroyed at Mahoning a few weeks later!

[micro60t]

Back to our normal pictures. Name them.

[White Lightnin]

Back to our normal pictures. Name them.

Well the #96 is Johnny Crawford Jr. out of Bloomsburg. His Dad, John Sr. was a past Evergreen champ wayyyyy back in the day and also owned the #96 PRO STOCK driven by Frank Zenzel.

The car on the inside of Crawford is the #90 of Doug French and the lone Vega sure looks like the #83 of John McGill.

[micro60t]

I'm not sure of the driver in this 1989 photo. I am also going to be taking a break for a while to catch up on some other things. :wave:

[kyle06]

First of all, I remember watching your ol' purple No. 60 race at Mahoning in '87. What I don't remember is who bought it.

I think that's Richie Byrne in the 09. At least that's my best guess. That's the Street Stock Racing Club, a group of New Jersey drivers who started out racing on the old New Egypt asphalt and hit Evergreen a few times in '88 and '89, if my memory serves me well. I mostly remember Brian Pancoast's No. 44 from that group.

[White Lightnin]

First of all, I remember watching your ol' purple No. 60 race at Mahoning in '87. What I don't remember is who bought it.

I think that's Richie Byrne in the 09. At least that's my best guess. That's the Street Stock Racing Club, a group of New Jersey drivers who started out racing on the old New Egypt asphalt and hit Evergreen a few times in '88 and '89, if my memory serves me well. I mostly remember Brian Pancoast's No. 44 from that group.

Kyle, does Richie O'Byrne sound better? I remember the SSRC coming in to Evergreen. New Egypt shut down and they no longer had a place to race their CAM 2 ROC Quailfier so Evergreen gave them a place to run that race up to 1992. I also remember Brian Pancoast but the one that really sticks in my mind was either Pride or Shannon Connor driving the #43 Monte Carlo. That was a car they bought off of Tony Sylvester and it was one of the Tiger Lee cars that ran so well at Pocono. When it ran Pocono. it was a #38 and painted with tiger stripes all over it.

[White Lightnin]

Here's a little story about one of the SSRC races at Evergreen. For the race in 1992, the SSRC only brought in a handful of cars so Evergreen didn't want the race to look "bad" so they invited the Evergreen SS's to race with them. I was with Dean Kline, at the time and we were told that we didn't have to change a thing on our cars to run this race. The problem here, was that the cars of the SSRC were built closer to a Factory Stock spec and here we were, with 10 inch rubber, 180 headers, jacker bolts, 4 inches off the ground and a ton more differences. We were told that if one of the Evergreen cars won, we would, of course, get the spot at Pocono. They lined up the Evergreen cars at the rear of the field and the race began. Well it didn't take long for the Evergreen SS cars to head to the front. Now what was the track to do? A SSRC car was no way going to win their own qualifier. Dean had the #22 out in front but had a tire going down and spun. Caution comes out and he heads to the pits. We get the tire changed within 2 laps and he joins the rear of the field. Once again he runs through the field and takes the lead. Another caution came out and on the restart, Dean gets put to the rear. HUH?? Upon questioning the call, we were told "didn't we tell you that the cautions counted? Dean lost 2 laps in the pits changing that tire". We told them that "Well, if that was the case, then Dean made up 1 of the laps, right"? The said "well no, he really has to lap the field twice but totally under green with no cautions". :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: We pulled into the pits and loaded up and went home. POLITICS :applause:

[White Lightnin]

I'm not sure of the driver in this 1989 photo. I am also going to be taking a break for a while to catch up on some other things. :wave:


In the photo of the 09 in victory lane, name the Evergreen flagman standing to the right in the picture.

[johnjr531]

the flag mean in the 09 photo is none other then Ed gittens..:wave:

[Geno]

White Lightenin...

who won that race in 1992? Think that I know, but don't want to guess. No, I'm not thinking who you think that I am, LOL.:wave:

[White Lightnin]

White Lightenin...

who won that race in 1992? Think that I know, but don't want to guess. No, I'm not thinking who you think that I am, LOL.:wave:



I messed up on the year of my story. Actually it was 1991. I'm not positive of who won the race but I do know that he was a regular SSRC member. A red #61 does come to mind. Who were you thinking it was?

[Geno]

I was thinking Dale Fey, but that was 1990 and in the Evergreen qualifier.

[White Lightnin]

I was thinking Dale Fey, but that was 1990 and in the Evergreen qualifier.

Damn Geno. All of our memories are getting clouded. Remember that the qualifier that I'm talking about was an extra one just for the Street Stock Racing Club of New Jersey.

Our own track qualifiers, when they had qualifier races, to the ROC were:

1988 #3 Dale Fey
1989 #15 Joe Kulaga
1990 #17c Steve Clark
1991 #28K Charlie Klatt
1992 #21 Jerry Hildebrand
1993 #20 Frank Holby
1994 #4 Todd Stehle
1996 #14 Keith Bachman
2000 #11 Frank Greco
2001 #13 Chris Hamilton

[Geno]

LOL, just got back from vacation, which explains the clouds! As always, thanks for filling me in Whote Lightenin...

And yes, I do remember the Jersey boys very well...or do I?:confused: Yep, I do!

[White Lightnin]

LOL, just got back from vacation, which explains the clouds! As always, thanks for filling me in Whote Lightenin...

And yes, I do remember the Jersey boys very well...or do I?:confused: Yep, I do!

Here is some 2 part trivia for you. What car did Dale Fey bring on opening day in 1988 and try to pawn it off as a Street Stock?

He was told to never bring it back so then what car did he bring the next week and run the whole 1988 season with?

[Geno]

Ya got me on #1, but #2 is Pete Nensteil's car. Correct? What's the answer to #1?:)

[White Lightnin]

Ya got me on #1, but #2 is Pete Nensteil's car. Correct? What's the answer to #1?:)

Not Nensteil's either.

Dale's Uncle Carl ran the #32 Late Models back in the Spencer era. The last Late Model that Carl had was Richie Jensen's 1980 championship car. After Evergreen closed in 1982, Dale ran this car in the mid 80's as a #32 Limited Late Model on the dirt at Selingsgrove Speedway. It had a wedge body on it and it was called the "Wiffleball". When Evergreen reopened in 88, Dale put the stock appearing Jensen Camaro body back on it, painted it yellow, and brought it on opening day as a #3 Street Stock. Well, we didn't have much of a tech department back then but a blind man could see that there were no stock Camaros with 2 x 3 frame rails and 4 coil springs. It ran like a raped ape but Dale was told to take it home and leave it home. Uncle Carl's original Late Model, that he started with back in 1979, was a 1968 Chevelle and it was left to sink into the ground after he bought Richie's Camaro. During the week, Dale yanked that old orange and white #32 Chevelle out of the earth and converted it backwards to SS specs and ran the rest of the year with it. The only race he won with the Chevelle was the ROC qualifier. During the 88 season he had built a new maroon Chevelle for the 89 season and that was the one that he took to Pocono. That may be the Chevelle that Bob Nensteil wound up with.

[Tommy65]

I believe that was Richie Burns driving the 09 a few posts back. I enjoyed the stories about the NJ Street Stockers Racing Club. I was a member and had just built my car for New Egypt Speedway when it closed, that's how I wound up at Evergreen in 88. Funny, the first month or so I was out to lunch with 8" non-offset wheels, stock street tires, and exhaust manifolds. In fact I spun multiple times in the opening day feature trying so hard to keep up! Changing the wheels and tires made a big difference but when I finally put headers on, I really got in the mix. Couldn't believe how much more power I had. Anyway, believe it or not I was the NJ SSRC Traveling Champion in 1988 because of my weekly competition at Evergreen. I never raced with the club guys though because my car no longer matched their rules!

I believe I finished second to Dale Fey when he won that Pocono Qualifier in 88 and we waged one heck of a side by side battle until my right front shock mount broke off and I couldn't run the outside anymore. Absolutely the funnest race I can remember! Wasn't Dale's uncle the turn 2 (track entrance) corner worker back in 1988?

[White Lightnin]

Wasn't Dale's uncle the turn 2 (track entrance) corner worker back in 1988?

Not Dale's uncle. Carl Fey had health problems and had moved to Florida. He passed away quite a few years ago. He is buried in Mountaintop and his grave has a beautiful black marker with a photo of him racing his Camaro etched into it.

[Tommy65]

1991 SSRC winner. I wasn't there but if it was a red #61, I'm thinking it may have been Greg Gastelu?

[White Lightnin]

1991 SSRC winner. I wasn't there but if it was a red #61, I'm thinking it may have been Greg Gastelu?

I believe that you're right, Tommy. It was a red #61 car. A first generation Monte Carlo, I think.

[Tommy65]

The Gastelu's were known for mopars but I believe Greg's car at that time was actually a Chevelle, 72 or 73 vintage perhaps. Been trying to find a picture of it but can't.

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I found time to sneak one in!

[StrandRaceway]

Mike Uhrin (Spelling?)

[White Lightnin]

Mike Uhrin (Spelling?)

The #84 of Mike Uhrin. Spelling is correct, Frank.

Just to give a little history on this car. Mike had Tony Hirschman in this car for opening day in 1988. Mike took over after that and had 6 wins and was second in points. I don't believe Mike ran here in 1989 so for the 1990 season, Mike sold the car to then new modified team owner Barry Davis. I knew Barry from doing work on his company trucks. During a 4th of July car show in Mountaintop, I introduced Barry to Dean Kline. They got talking and the next thing you knew, we were picking up the modified from Freeland one night. The car was then painted blue and re-numbered 22. Dean had a bad opening day wreck which called for a trip to Rochester to get both front and rear clips replaced. Barry wound up shell shocked and bailed as a owner. Dean worked for Denny Wengrzynek at the time so Denny, all of a sudden, found himself as a car owner. Dean finished the season out in the car and then Denny drove the car himself as a black and silver #52 in 1992-93. It then became a gold colored #44, driven by Howard Johnston, after Denny purchased the ex Doug Hoffman Coors Gold #60 mod for himself. It may have wound up as one of Tom Wanick's cars after that. I lost track.

[2crew]

Who is Denim Dan in that picture?

[modslive]

back in nov.1997 i bought the old doug hoffman 60 over car off of howard johnson.and ran it @ mahoning ,flemington and mountain untill 2006 i sold it to a guy in conn.thanks tim santee

[johnjr531]

The red camaro just comming on the track on the back stretch is the # 35 of Jerry Hildebrand that was an old Gerry Roushey car it was brought back from Flordia and revamped for Jerry.:wave:

[White Lightnin]

The red camaro just comming on the track on the back stretch is the # 35 of Jerry Hildebrand that was an old Gerry Roushey car it was brought back from Flordia and revamped for Jerry.:wave:

Moe Roushey, Gerry's uncle, owned the #35 that Hildebrand drove. I believe Gerry is still in Florida.

The yellow/white car, also in the photo, is the #09 Ford Torino driven by Reed Witner.

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Does anyone know who the other modified is towards the right side of the picture?

[White Lightnin]

Does anyone know who the other modified is towards the right side of the picture?

It looks real familiar to me but I just can't make out the door number. The car, that I'm thinking of was a #52 car. Maybe Greg Edelman?

[micro60t]

I've been busy lately, but here is a good one.

[White Lightnin]

I've been busy lately, but here is a good one.

Now that's a good one - Owned by Quailty Metals out of Dallas, Pa. and driven by Brett Bodine.

I remember the night that Bodine spun coming out of turn 2 and came to a stop with his nose pointing at the wall. Butch Balliett, driving Wilbur Shuman's #5 kept coming, through the cloud of dust, and ran right over the nose of the #4, taking off the air cleaner, hood and carb.

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Can you name both drivers?

[kyle06]

Definitely Paul Bauscher on the outside. I'm going to guess either Marvin Shiner or Barry Rhode on the inside.

[White Lightnin]

Definitely Paul Bauscher on the outside. I'm going to guess either Marvin Shiner or Barry Rhode on the inside.

Most definitely the "Flying Turkey Farmer" in the #91. Paul's car always looked like, if you gave it enough runway, it would take flight. LOL!!

On the inside is Marvin Shiner Jr. in his #99

These were both old straight front axle Dorney/Mahoning cars running against a field made up mostly of new Troyer pavement Cavaliers. Even though Bauscher was always super fast, he just couldn't get to victory lane with this car. Shiner did win 1 feature in this #99 car. Maybe the last straight axle win at Evergreen ever.

[modslive]

could also be don wuchter # 84

[White Lightnin]

could also be don wuchter # 84

It is possible. Maybe you could find a full side shot of Shiner or Wuchter in your old Mahoning Valley programs? That would help ID it once and for all. :)

[micro60t]

It is Marvin Shiner on the inside. Here is a picture of him from the same year (1988) at the Linda's Speedway.

[White Lightnin]

It is Marvin Shiner on the inside. Here is a picture of him from the same year (1988) at the Linda's Speedway.

These straight front axle cars looked a little out of place at Evergreen running against the Troyers, Bo-Dyns and the Dolins but it sure looks good on the dirt.

Great picture :applause: