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killa54
11-11-2010, 12:35 PM
i was informed & told to let every1 know that there is over a 90% chance that there will be a few new events next year. you should attend the winter meetings to voice ur opinion & show ur support if u are interested in these events. they are: mini van demo's, a soccer demo (u will hafta create ur teams) & enduro style figure 8's. let me remind u that nothing is set in stone & the schedule has not been made.

art11758
11-11-2010, 02:27 PM
i was informed & told to let every1 know that there is over a 90% chance that there will be a few new events next year. you should attend the winter meetings to voice ur opinion & show ur support if u are interested in these events. they are: mini van demo's, a soccer demo (u will hafta create ur teams) & enduro style figure 8's. let me remind u that nothing is set in stone & the schedule has not been made.

Hmm, sounds like a lil recycling going on. Soccer sounds like the old football car demos. Enduro figure eights sounds like the old smash to pass deal.. I likey the minivan idea though. I guess a SUV demo would be deadly so that won't get discussed.

cerckl'm racing
11-12-2010, 02:02 AM
I never got to see one of these - were they run on the 8?

deathwishracin1
11-12-2010, 10:08 PM
Yes the smash to pass was run on the figure 8 course. It was basically enduro cars on the 8, and you had to make some sort of contact with every car you passed. It was your choice whether you just rubbed them or drove thru them. If no contact was made you either didn't get the position or you got disqualified, don't remember which.

From what I'm hearing that is not the plan this time. This time around it sounds like it's going to basically be an 8 cylinder enduro on the 8 course. Contact isn't manditory, but it isn't against the rules either. Definately a cheap and easy way for people to be able to run a figure 8, hopefully it will be pretty popular.

I'd still like to see them bring back the "backwards-forwards" demos at some point. They had some really good crashes.

WEEZER
11-13-2010, 10:15 AM
The smash to Pass was cool but with only 12/14 cars, those guys were flying and not really set up safety wise, years ago I went to the late Riverside Park speedway for a big enduro and they had a "qualifying race ran on the fig 8 course" with the top 40 cars making it to the enduro on the oval. It was pretty wild to say the least. It would be cool seeing a 8cyl fig 8 enduro at the head.

TTOR
11-14-2010, 02:01 PM
Is the figure 8 deal meant to be a legitimate enduro or just a crash fest?

I won't be able to make it to the winter meetings, the figure 8 enduro, and soccer demo sound cool (teams of 3 I guess?). I'd also like to see two car train races on the oval or figure 8 (to replace the long missed train races)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVG1KsLTLO0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G1Kgd8NIoc&feature=related

killa54
11-14-2010, 06:05 PM
Is the figure 8 deal meant to be a legitimate enduro or just a crash fest?

I won't be able to make it to the winter meetings, the figure 8 enduro, and soccer demo sound cool (teams of 3 I guess?). I'd also like to see two car train races on the oval or figure 8 (to replace the long missed train races)

i really dont know much about what the rules are gonna be. i seen people askin about the minivan demo's, so i asked in hope 2 relay the messege, give people a chance 2 figure out what they're gonna do. what i told u is what i know. u should try and get some1 2 the winter meeting in ur place. last year no1 came and they were stuck wondering what the rules were on race day. if i found anything out, i'll let u know

TTOR
11-14-2010, 06:27 PM
i really dont know much about what the rules are gonna be. i seen people askin about the minivan demo's, so i asked in hope 2 relay the messege, give people a chance 2 figure out what they're gonna do. what i told u is what i know. u should try and get some1 2 the winter meeting in ur place. last year no1 came and they were stuck wondering what the rules were on race day. if i found anything out, i'll let u know

Yea I already have plans for someone to go in my place. On the subject of minivans...it was my understanding that they are going to replace the buses. If we're considering having a "enduro" fig 8. Maybe another possibility run a mini van figure 8 the same night of a mini van demo right before.

deathwishracin1
11-14-2010, 09:47 PM
Yea I already have plans for someone to go in my place. On the subject of minivans...it was my understanding that they are going to replace the buses. If we're considering having a "enduro" fig 8. Maybe another possibility run a mini van figure 8 the same night of a mini van demo right before.

I'm guessing the Enduro figure 8 will be more along the lines of 8 cylinder Enduro cars (prob with door bars or some other safety work), not minivans. One thing we all need to keep in mind is the more divisions we try to add the smaller turnout we will have. Most people will pick one or two and run that but not the others.

Look at the enduros. We had the 8's and that was it. Cars became more scarce. They added the 4's. We had 2 full divisions. Then they added the grands. A few cars left the 8's. Then they added the trucks. Both the 4's and 8's shrank. Then they added the 6's. Now we have 5 divisions with 30ish cars each.

You add too many new divisions in the same season and IMO the demos will start shrinking and the new divisions will have 2 or 3 cars each. Lets stick with 2 or 3 new divisions this season, keep What has the best turnout and think about adding others for '12.

TTOR
11-17-2010, 02:54 PM
I'm guessing the Enduro figure 8 will be more along the lines of 8 cylinder Enduro cars (prob with door bars or some other safety work), not minivans. One thing we all need to keep in mind is the more divisions we try to add the smaller turnout we will have. Most people will pick one or two and run that but not the others.

what I meant was If they're are going to hold a minivan demo why not have like a 15 lap fig 8 race right before the demo, leave the cars on the track and go straight into demo mode after the race is over.

easy-rider
11-22-2010, 06:14 PM
hey brian where did you see backwards forwards demos ?

deathwishracin1
11-22-2010, 10:36 PM
hey brian where did you see backwards forwards demos ?

Riverhead brought them back for a season in the mid to late 90's. I think it was right around the time they were running the smash to pass figure 8. They look fun but also looks like some very violent hits. I wonder why they stopped running them.

Gravel
11-24-2010, 08:50 PM
I have video of Backward/Forward demo's from 1983. Looking for someone who knows how to restore video. If anyone knows of someone. Please let me know.
Riverhead ran 1 backward/forward demo in '97 I think. Didn't go over as well as they thought. The backwards race was fun, though. 12 laps in reverse at high speed. Cool.

easy-rider
11-25-2010, 08:45 AM
gravels top speed -3mph:lol:

killa54
11-26-2010, 10:51 AM
I have video of Backward/Forward demo's from 1983. Looking for someone who knows how to restore video. If anyone knows of someone. Please let me know.

Talk 2 my dad, he knows some1.. that's how he got his '83 demo champ on dvd. Then u can let me borrow it & put it on youtube..lol..

Gravel
11-26-2010, 08:25 PM
Thanks, Jamie. I'll cal him over the weekend.