2013 Daytona UNOH Bash at the Beach

[BigMac]

Are all of the teams that are locked into the event planning on racing? There seemed to be a lot of positive reaction to this event back in the spring. I know teams sometimes change their minds after a long hard season though.

[Acadia]

Attendance will be proportional to the purse, amongst other things.

I don't know if running at Daytona will have the cachet to get many to go unless they are also down there for New Smyrna.

[stoningtonmodmania]

only 74 more days till the battle at the beach!!!

[bud]

Not being able to come up with seat money may factor in also

[Rob29]

I read on Twitter that SPEED will be airing these races, but I haven't seen it confirmed from any one reputable yet. Anyone else seen anything and can weigh in?

[JED]

When announced part of the announcement was Speed would be broadcasting the race live.

[limodmaniac]

Have they told the teams what kind of money they will be racing for??

[RacnJason00]

I know of one team that is thinking about not making the trip.

[The Bullfather]

NASCAR's George Silverman announced it on Sirius Tuesday. He also said they would have heat races from this event......

[BigMac]

Have they told the teams what kind of money they will be racing for??

I'm not sure what the complete payout is but Daytona announced last winter the winner will get $20,000.

[worm]

entry to be out next week,e mail from WILSON

[shep 06]

Steve Park in the #2 car

[spotter27]

Steve Park in the #2 car

is that #2 south car?I know Todd is planning on going with someone else driving his back up car

[shep 06]

Todds backup car

[BigMac]

The official Speedweeks press release doesn't even mention the Bash at the Beach. I got this off of Jayski but the release was sent out to all motorsports media outlets.

For the fourth consecutive year, NASCAR's biggest, richest and most prestigious race; the 55th annual Daytona 500 is scheduled for a 1 pm/et start time on Sunday, Feb. 24. Start times for the other remaining events of Budweiser Speedweeks 2013 at Daytona International Speedway are as follows:
The 51st anniversary Rolex 24 At Daytona GRAND-AM Rolex Sports Car Series race, Jan. 26-27, 3:30 pm/et
The Lucas Oil 200 ARCA Racing Series, Saturday, Feb. 16, 4:30 pm/et
The Daytona Shootout non-points event, Saturday, Feb. 16, 8 pm/et
Daytona 500 Qualifying Presented By Kroger, Sunday, Feb. 17, 1 pm/et
Budweiser Duel At Daytona, Thursday, Feb. 21, 2 pm/et
NextEra Energy Resources 250 NASCAR Camping World Truck Series race, Friday, Feb. 22, 7:30 pm/et
DRIVE4COPD 300 NASCAR Nationwide Series race, Saturday, Feb. 23, 1 pm/et
Tickets for NASCAR's biggest, richest and most prestigious race the 55th annual Daytona 500 on Sunday, Feb. 24 start at $65 and are available at www.daytonainternationalspeedway.com or by calling 1-800-PITSHOP. For the second straight year, the Speedway is offering special youth pricing for the Daytona 500. Children 12 and under will receive 50 percent off all backstretch grandstand seats for the Daytona 500 while supplies last. In addition, children 12 and under are free in the Sprint FANZONE throughout Budweiser Speedweeks.(DIS)(12-20-2012)

[Acadia]

The official Speedweeks press release doesn't even mention the Bash at the Beach.


Apparently the Modifieds are being promoted through some other channel. ;)

[BigMac]

Looks like the 3 and 22 are going. The 2 and 6 have announced their intention to run this one. Anyone else? Are any of these teams planning to stay for a night or two of racing at New Smyrna?

[Magicshoes12]

Saw on facebook, Coby is looking for a ride for the Battle, 52 isn't going.

[JWfor8x]

The official Speedweeks press release doesn't even mention the Bash at the Beach. I got this off of Jayski but the release was sent out to all motorsports media outlets.

For the fourth consecutive year, NASCAR's biggest, richest and most prestigious race; the 55th annual Daytona 500 is scheduled for a 1 pm/et start time on Sunday, Feb. 24. Start times for the other remaining events of Budweiser Speedweeks 2013 at Daytona International Speedway are as follows:
The 51st anniversary Rolex 24 At Daytona GRAND-AM Rolex Sports Car Series race, Jan. 26-27, 3:30 pm/et
The Lucas Oil 200 ARCA Racing Series, Saturday, Feb. 16, 4:30 pm/et
The Daytona Shootout non-points event, Saturday, Feb. 16, 8 pm/et
Daytona 500 Qualifying Presented By Kroger, Sunday, Feb. 17, 1 pm/et
Budweiser Duel At Daytona, Thursday, Feb. 21, 2 pm/et
NextEra Energy Resources 250 NASCAR Camping World Truck Series race, Friday, Feb. 22, 7:30 pm/et
DRIVE4COPD 300 NASCAR Nationwide Series race, Saturday, Feb. 23, 1 pm/et
Tickets for NASCAR's biggest, richest and most prestigious race the 55th annual Daytona 500 on Sunday, Feb. 24 start at $65 and are available at www.daytonainternationalspeedway.com or by calling 1-800-PITSHOP. For the second straight year, the Speedway is offering special youth pricing for the Daytona 500. Children 12 and under will receive 50 percent off all backstretch grandstand seats for the Daytona 500 while supplies last. In addition, children 12 and under are free in the Sprint FANZONE throughout Budweiser Speedweeks.(DIS)(12-20-2012)

There's an ad for it in this months Speedway Illustrated. Tickets start at $25.00 and children 12 and under are free.

[CuriousGeorge]

Preece, 18 team, 58 team, Danny Bohn, Hirschman

[Axel]

Is the daytona mod race on TV? Woulve love to watch it as i wont be able to go...

[Rob29]

Bonsignore is going. Can't remember if that's been mentioned here yet or not. He's talked about it numerous times and facebook and posted a picture yesterday on Twitter of the car they're building for Daytona.

[BigMac]

The race should be broadcast live on Speed. I assume the Myers will not be attending if its true they aren't running the WSMT in 2013. Doesn't make much sense to purchase a license for one race. Any other southern racers attending? The flip side to all of this is the teams that are running New Smyrna but not running Daytona(Hossfeld?)

[RGeeProductions]

Ken Heagy and Johnny Bush

[outlawfab]

2 weeks ago myers was a go for the bash. was also going to pick up a 2013 troyer for the tour but who knows things can change.

[JED]

Saw on facebook, Coby is looking for a ride for the Battle, 52 isn't going.

Coby stated at the banquet he will be driving the #20 car he drove on the MRS last season.

[limodmaniac]

Coby WAS going to drive the 20, but as far as I know, that is NOT going to happen, and yes, he was looking for a ride on FB recently.

[Magicshoes12]

Coby stated at the banquet he will be driving the #20 car he drove on the MRS last season.

Yeah, Everyone told him to bring the #20 car, but he said it was too wrecked from Thompson the last time out and would have to change a bunch of stuff to make it WMT Legal

[BBL]

TC in the 00 at New Smyrna

[HeavyHauler1957]

How about the 93? Anyone heard?

[worm]

at turkey derby 93 said not going to daytona

[NH351]

Here's the schedule in case anyone is interested.

Should be interesting with the qualifying races. It will be aired live on speed. Not sure if the qualifying races will be shown live, or at all.

2013 UNOH BATTLE at THE BEACH
NASCAR SPEEDWEEKS
February 16-19, 2013

Saturday, February 16, 2013
10:00 am to 3:00 pm NASCAR 2013 Membership Open
10:00 am to 4:00 pm NASCAR UNOH Battle at the Beach Registration Open

Sunday, February 17, 2013
7:00 am NASCAR 2013 Membership Opens
7:00 am NASCAR UNOH Battle at the Beach Registration Opens
7:00 am NASCAR K&N Pro Series Haulers Enter
8:30 am NASCAR Whelen Modified/Southern Modified Tour Haulers Enter
10:00 am NASCAR Whelen All-American Series Haulers Enter
12:30 pm NASCAR Crew Chief Meeting
1:00 pm NASCAR Garage Opens, Inspection Begins
5:00 pm NASCAR Membership & Registration Closes
6:00 pm NASCAR Garage Closes

Monday, February 18, 2013
8:00 am NASCAR Garage & Registration Opens
8:00 am NASCAR Inspection Begins
8:15 am NASCAR Whelen All-American Series Driver Crew Chief & Spotter Meeting Drawing for Qualifying Order
9:00 am to 12:00pm NASCAR Whelen All-American Final Series Practice
11:00 am NASCAR K&N Pro Series Driver & Spotter Meeting Drawing for Qualifying Order
12:10 pm to 1:30 pm NASCAR K&N Pro Series Practice
12:30 pm NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour Driver & Spotter Meeting Drawing for Qualifying Order
1:00 pm NASCAR Whelen All-American Series Qualifying Race Inspection Begins
2:00 pm NASCAR Whelen All-American Series Group Photo
1:40 pm to 3:00 pm NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour Practice
2:30 pm to 3:30pm NASCAR Whelen All-American Series Driver Autograph Session
4:00 pm NASCAR Whelen All-American Series Qualifying Race #1 (25 Laps/Minutes)
4:30 pm NASCAR Whelen All-American Series Qualifying Race #2 (25 Laps/Minutes)
5:00 pm NASCAR Membership & Registration Closes
5:00 pm NASCAR Whelen All-American Series Qualifying Race # 3 (25 Laps/Minutes)
5:30 pm NASCAR Whelen All-American Series Qualifying Race # 4 (25 Laps/Minutes)
6:00 pm NASCAR K&N Pro Series & Whelen Modified Tour Garage Close
6:15 pm NASCAR Whelen All-American Series Last Chance Race (25 Laps/Minutes)
6:45 pm Pre-Race Ceremonies Begin
6:50 pm NASCAR Whelen All-American Series Driver Introductions
7:15 pm NASCAR Whelen All-American Series Race (150-Laps)

Tuesday, February 19, 2013
9:30 am NASCAR Garage & Registration Opens
11:00 am to 12:00 pm NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour Final Practice
12:10 pm to 1:10 pm NASCAR K&N Pro Series Final Practice
12:30 pm NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour Qualifying Race Inspection Begins
12:30 pm to 1:30 pm NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour Driver Autograph Session
1:30 pm to 2:30 pm NASCAR K& Pro Series Driver Autograph Session
1:40 pm NASCAR K&N Pro Series Qualifying Race Inspection Begins
2:00 pm NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour Driver, Crew Chief Meeting
3:00 pm NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour Qualifying Race # 1 (25 Laps/Minutes)
3:00 pm NASCAR K&N Pro Series Driver, Crew Chief Meeting
3:35 pm NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour Qualifying Race # 2 (25 Laps/Minutes)
4:00 pm NASCAR K&N Pro Series Qualifying Race # 1 (25 Laps/Minutes)
4:25 pm NASCAR K&N Pro Series Qualifying Race # 2 (25 Laps/Minutes)
4:50 pm NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour Last Chance Race (25Laps/Minutes)
5:00 pm NASCAR Membership and Registration Closes
5:15 pm NASCAR K&N Pro Series Last Chance Race (25 Laps/Minutes)
6:15 pm NASCAR K&N Pro Series & NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour Group Photos
6:30 pm Pre-Race Ceremonies Begin
6:35 pm NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour & NASCAR K&N Pro Series Driver Introductions
7:05 pm Invocation/Anthem
7:15 pm NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour (150-Laps)
8:30 pm NASCAR K&N Pro Series Race Race (150-Laps)

[worm]

still NO entry form for this race

[NH351]

Entry forms were released today. Available at the nascar membership web site

[worm]

where is the pay out!

[worm]

who would enter with out entry blank with info on it

[RGeeProductions]

who would enter with out entry blank with info on it

What do you mean by that?
I see payout, gear rule, fuel rule, tire rules, etc.....

[MOD11RACER]

Entry from is out with complete payout for every division. $113,100 total cash payout for the WMT-WSMT Race. $20,800 to win. Plus $500 to win (2) each heat race. $1,050 for the Coca-Cola "Move of the Race".

34 starters. 34th pays $1,500.

[worm]

sorry you may have ,but are page on nascar members has nothing

[JWfor8x]

One thing that I like is that competitors from the national series are not allowed to compete.

[NH351]

One thing that I like is that competitors from the national series are not allowed to compete.

Nice to see that they're keeping them out of it. out of curiosity what is the wording on that? just wondering how it affects those drivers that have started a race or two in the trucks/nationwide but are touring regulars or former touring regulars.

I'm no longer a nascar member so I can't see the entry blank.

[JWfor8x]

Nice to see that they're keeping them out of it. out of curiosity what is the wording on that? just wondering how it affects those drivers that have started a race or two in the trucks/nationwide but are touring regulars or former touring regulars.

I'm no longer a nascar member so I can't see the entry blank.

I was just going by the press release on the Chrome Horn. I would be interested to know exactly what that means though. Say, for example, Ted Christopher got a one time start/park Nationwide ride, would that disqualify him? I wouldn't think so, but the entry blank would spell it out.

[RGeeProductions]

sorry you may have ,but are page on nascar members has nothing

All info is on the NASCAR members page.

[worm]

got it ,thank you

[gmac19]

https://nascar-assets.americaneagle.com/assets/2/Member/2013%20Whelen%20Modified%20Tours%20Battle%20Entry% 20Blank%20Final.pdf here ya go for ppl who are not a nascar member purse break down and rules

[uticamike]

Anybody think they'll get a full field? (34 cars)

[RBH]

Hell Yes but not many extras

[JWfor8x]

https://nascar-assets.americaneagle.com/assets/2/Member/2013%20Whelen%20Modified%20Tours%20Battle%20Entry% 20Blank%20Final.pdf here ya go for ppl who are not a nascar member purse break down and rules

thanks for posting this link. I'm just a fan with no ties to any team and would not have found it. I liked what I read.

[limodmaniac]

thanks for posting this link. I'm just a fan with no ties to any team and would not have found it. I liked what I read.

JWfor8x ... you DO have ties to a team.. You have sponsored the Brunnhoelzl 8x team for two years now!!!! Thanks for the 300 dollar sponsorships each year!!! It is not forgotten, and much appreciated!!!

[NWMT PR]

NH351 & JWfor8x ...

The provision that prevents national series drivers will not prevent those current full-time NWMT drivers from participating in the race. Guys like Stefanik, Christopher and Santos that have multiple national series starts ... they are primary NWMT drivers, so they are fine. The rule prevents drivers such as Newman, Stewart, Kahne, etc. from entering the race. This is all driven by the desire for these races to shine the light on the drivers that make up the series week-to-week.

Another example from the K&N Pro Series, which might futher explain this rule ... Kyle Larson won the K&N East title last year, and also ran four Camping World Truck Series races. Although he is not expected to return to K&N in 2013, he has not graduated to full-time status at the national series level yet, so he is still eligible for the Battle At The Beach. Conversely, former K&N Pro Series driver Ty Dillon would not be eligible because he has previously moved on to full-time status at the national series level.

[BOBBY]

Who is the new wmt director..?????what is the secret???

[NWMT PR]

Who is the new wmt director..?????what is the secret???

The position hasn't been filled yet. It was vacated less than a month ago. There is no timetable.

[limodmaniac]

What does the WMT director exactly do?

[Groundpounder]

What does the WMT director exactly do?

Pi$$ everyone off?


Sorry, you put that one out there, I had to swing at it.

[BigMac]

Anybody think they'll get a full field? (34 cars)

No. They don't get 34 cars in Connecticut anymore. I bet New Smyrna gets 25 plus though on Wednesday night. That will be the show to make if you only have one night in New Smyrna.

[holleratme]

Perfect Grounpounder. I have to agree

[wrench1]

What does the WMT director exactly do?

he is just a puppet for nascar.just as chad was.chad took himself and his knee pads and moved up-lol

[TourFan Ed]

if i remember correctly Tony Hirschman and the 48 team were going when the race was announced also later Jamie Tomaino stated he would finally get to race at Daytona. Ed Flemke also seemed interested in going. Does anyone know if these are still true? Also wondering about Rob Fuller Gary Putnam and Cole Powell.

[RacnJason00]

I think all the Mods that make the trip will all make the show!!!

[Muffy]

Cole Powell is planning to go.

[MJProcko]

Count Steve Park in!!!! as a team mate to Todd Szegedy.

[CASHCAD45]

A circus race at a phony racetrack! Oh joy! Something for the Modified community to be proud of a tuesday night sideshow race you need a half a week off from work to go to.In my opinion as far as NASCAR races go, NO POINTS NO POINT.Why go 1500 miles for a race that there is no point finishing if you can't win.Smart teams will save thier time and resourses for the real racing at REAL racetracks in the spring.

[Rob29]

A circus race at a phony racetrack! Oh joy! Something for the Modified community to be proud of a tuesday night sideshow race you need a half a week off from work to go to.In my opinion as far as NASCAR races go, NO POINTS NO POINT.Why go 1500 miles for a race that there is no point finishing if you can't win.Smart teams will save thier time and resourses for the real racing at REAL racetracks in the spring.
Sounds like most teams are planning on going, and most drivers that I've noticed seem excited to go for a chance to be a Daytona winner. Even if it is a "phony track"

[RGeeProductions]

A circus race at a phony racetrack! Oh joy! Something for the Modified community to be proud of a Tuesday night sideshow race you need a half a week off from work to go to. In my opinion as far as NASCAR races go, NO POINTS NO POINT. Why go 1500 miles for a race that there is no point finishing if you can't win. Smart teams will save their time and resources for the real racing at REAL racetracks in the spring.

Sounds like Acadia......
So you are saying that ALL the teams that ARE going to Daytona are 'not smart' because they have been fooled by NASCAR's tomfoolery and their smoke & mirror antics? WOW! This could be the story of 2013!
BTW: I bet you watch the race on TV!!!!

[shep 06]

I agree that the track might not be the best. But Im sure the reason these teams are going is because they are racers,and that is what racers do RACE.Its up to each team to decide where and when.To say the ones that are going are not smart is wrong.I bet alot of teams that are not going wish they could.

[CASHCAD45]

Oh yea ,wish I could go and spend double on airline tickrts & triple hotel rates cool! hope people don't laugh to hard when a daytona winner says his winning speed was about 70 mph.Watching on tv will be a little diffacult (not on FOX) need special package IMAGINE THAT!

[Axel]

Well, we all want what’s best for the modified tour, that’s why we are here reading and posting.

The Daytona race aint perfect, but what is? I think that at least the purse is pretty good and the exposure to new audiences don’t suck. I’d like it to be a points race too, but I also want to retire tomorrow, not worry about bills, have free, great healthcare etc, but that aint happening either! This race is not perfect, but 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing, right?

On a related note, teams and fans go to New Smyrna to see a week of racing, incur much of the same costs with a smaller purse.

[CASHCAD45]

How many actua tour teams have gone to Smyna in the last few years 5 maybe 6? Tells you something when the smartest tour owner of them all in 2012 is keeping his dough in his pocket (for the real racing).

[JWfor8x]

Oh yea ,wish I could go and spend double on airline tickrts & triple hotel rates cool! hope people don't laugh to hard when a daytona winner says his winning speed was about 70 mph.Watching on tv will be a little diffacult (not on FOX) need special package IMAGINE THAT!

I have a suggestion for you. Don't go, don't watch, be happy.

[CASHCAD45]

If all the teams that spend all that capital in Fla.in Feb. still have cash and show up at Riverhead,Stffod & Langley I'll be VERY HAPP! and gladly admit i'm wrong.

[RGeeProductions]

How many actual tour teams have gone to Smyrna in the last few years 5 maybe 6? Tells you something when the smartest tour owner of them all in 2012 is keeping his dough in his pocket (for the real racing).

Charles Hossfeld, Patrick Emerling, Dan Hemrick, Eric Goodale, Ryan Preece, Ted Christopher, Kevin Goodale, Andy Seuss, Kyle Erersole, Cole Powell, Chris Young - 2012
Ted Christopher, Charles Hossfeld, Patrick Emerling, Ronnie Silk, Burt Myers, Jason Myers, James Civali, Ryan Preece, Edward Brunnhoelzl III, Justin Bonsignore, Gary Putnam, Gary Fountain - 2011
Matt Hirschman, James Civali, Ronnie Silk, Rowan Pennink, Kyle Ebersol, Kevin Goodale, Eric Goodale, Bobby Grigas III, John Jensen, Chris Jensen, Ted Christopher, Charlie Pasteryak, Ed Brunnhoelzl III, Chuck Hossfeld, J.R. Bertuccio, Josh Nichols - 2010
(A few of these were not with tour teams at Smyrna but still tour drivers making the trip)


If all the teams that spend all that capital in Fla. in Feb. still have cash and show up at Riverhead, Stafford & Langley I'll be VERY HAPPY! and gladly admit i'm wrong.

If they plan on running the tour, I am sure they know what they are doing.

[RBH]

I think we all should all look at the big picture. IT IS DAYTONA & TV. I admit it may not be cost effective but we are all modified fans/crews & we want the series to survive. A shot at Daytona is a big plus, even if it is not on a good course. I've been there for the road course & super speedway Mod shows. My opinion is to go and enjoy the show!!!! also stop complaining about something positive for the tour. You also can go to New Symrna & Volusia so have a great time in Fla.
Also it may not be hot there but it better than 0 degrees here

[BOBBY]

Amen..enjoy the race ..should be real good.race..and quit complaning.....go woody pitkat. And the 79 team...

[csg]

Charles Hossfeld, Patrick Emerling, Dan Hemrick, Eric Goodale, Ryan Preece, Ted Christopher, Kevin Goodale, Andy Seuss, Kyle Erersole, Cole Powell, Chris Young - 2012
Ted Christopher, Charles Hossfeld, Patrick Emerling, Ronnie Silk, Burt Myers, Jason Myers, James Civali, Ryan Preece, Edward Brunnhoelzl III, Justin Bonsignore, Gary Putnam, Gary Fountain - 2011
Matt Hirschman, James Civali, Ronnie Silk, Rowan Pennink, Kyle Ebersol, Kevin Goodale, Eric Goodale, Bobby Grigas III, John Jensen, Chris Jensen, Ted Christopher, Charlie Pasteryak, Ed Brunnhoelzl III, Chuck Hossfeld, J.R. Bertuccio, Josh Nichols - 2010
(A few of these were not with tour teams at Smyrna but still tour drivers making the trip)


If they plan on running the tour, I am sure they know what they are doing.

The race at Daytona is good for the modifieds. It gets them exposure on TV, something everyone has been complaining about for years. This exposure is on Nascar's grandest track during their biggest week. Is everything about the event perfect? No, but is it better then what they had last February? I would say so. The track layout may not be the best for fast lap times but a modified turning pace laps still looks better than any other race car at full speed. And you might be able to catch the sponsors names without squinting. I would argue that some of the best races I have seen were at tight bullrings more often then not. So go to the races, or watch them on TV and enjoy seeing the modifieds in the spotlight on a big stage. I am looking forward to it and have been since they announced it. I think this event will help New Smyrna, which as the prior poster shows has seen a steady decline in tour driver participation over the years.

[NWMT PR]

Oh yea ,wish I could go and spend double on airline tickrts & triple hotel rates cool! hope people don't laugh to hard when a daytona winner says his winning speed was about 70 mph.Watching on tv will be a little diffacult (not on FOX) need special package IMAGINE THAT!

Unfortunately, you have been misinformed. My roundtrip, non-stop flight from Providence to Orlando is $200, which is no different than it is at any other date on the calendar. The track also secured special rates for those coming into town for the UNOH Batte At The Beach ... 30 different hotels in the immediate area with rates ranging from $79-$179 per night.

As far as wanting to see the Mods on network TV ... I'm not sure that is realistic expectation. The Nationwide Series only has a handful of races during a year on ABC. As far as I know, SPEED appears on the most basic of cable and dish packages these days. The BCS national championship football game wasn't even on network TV this year.

You are correct about the average speed, in fact I would guess it to be less than 70 mph, but does anybody really care about that? Riverhead races are usually in the 30-50 mph range.

[CASHCAD45]

I live in CT and a early am mon out and ealy am wed back (to minimize time off is$379).As for Riverhead speed its a loya historic(REAL) racrtrack that deserves our support.When non diehard think of Daytonathey think190mph anything else is amatuer side show.

I think evervone is missing my point only one race in 2012 had a excess of cars (Bristol combo show) most fields were short ,most notably Waterford & Riverhead this breaks my heart. I'd rather see all this effort being put into real backbone races like the Sizzler(in my opinion the only true touring series race left) or Riverhead, Maddog or the BOWL.I truely hope this glitter race brings us more GOOD exposure and more fans .I'm just afraid it will lead to more teams droppig by the wayside in July/Aug.We'll see i'll happily eatcrow(or a seagull )when we are all enjoying the heat race at Riverhead in Sept.

[JWfor8x]

I live in CT and a early am mon out and ealy am wed back (to minimize time off is$379).As for Riverhead speed its a loya historic(REAL) racrtrack that deserves our support.When non diehard think of Daytonathey think190mph anything else is amatuer side show.

I think evervone is missing my point only one race in 2012 had a excess of cars (Bristol combo show) most fields were short ,most notably Waterford & Riverhead this breaks my heart. I'd rather see all this effort being put into real backbone races like the Sizzler(in my opinion the only true touring series race left) or Riverhead, Maddog or the BOWL.I truely hope this glitter race brings us more GOOD exposure and more fans .I'm just afraid it will lead to more teams droppig by the wayside in July/Aug.We'll see i'll happily eatcrow(or a seagull )when we are all enjoying the heat race at Riverhead in Sept.

In some ways, I do agree with you. It will cost teams a pile of money to compete at Daytona. Last place money is $1500.00 so most teams do figure to end up well into the red. I guess it comes down to is it worth it to spend the money on the trip or not? I also understand that around the country, most people would just as soon see a soap box derby as they would see a modified race. Maybe though, if a few of them see the modifieds, they will want more. I can't imagine that any exposure that the modifieds do get at Daytona will be a bad thing for the team owners, drivers or crew members. Instead, I would think that for some, it could be very beneficial. Teams will drop by the wayside in July/Aug, just as they did last yearwhen there was no Bash at the Beach. I don't think that this years race at Daytona will have any effect on that.

[BigMac]

All valid points but lets not forget someone is going to walk away with $20,000 plus. That's a nice way to start the season. There is a certain yesteryear element in the fact that teams are still willing to haul down to FLA and run for the big bucks.

[Rob29]

Unfortunately, you have been misinformed. My roundtrip, non-stop flight from Providence to Orlando is $200, which is no different than it is at any other date on the calendar. The track also secured special rates for those coming into town for the UNOH Batte At The Beach ... 30 different hotels in the immediate area with rates ranging from $79-$179 per night.

As far as wanting to see the Mods on network TV ... I'm not sure that is realistic expectation. The Nationwide Series only has a handful of races during a year on ABC. As far as I know, SPEED appears on the most basic of cable and dish packages these days. The BCS national championship football game wasn't even on network TV this year.

You are correct about the average speed, in fact I would guess it to be less than 70 mph, but does anybody really care about that? Riverhead races are usually in the 30-50 mph range.
Not on Cablevision, but the rest of this sounds about right.

Regarding Mods on Network TV- ESPN only shows 3 Cup races on ABC. The three night races. And now, I just learned today that 2 NNS races will be shown on ESPNEWS of all channels. Yes, still televised, but no Truck races, almost no NNS races, and only 1/3rd of the Cup schedule is on network TV. Based on that, you can't expect the NWMT to be shown on network television.

The best thing that could happen is either SPEED/Fox Sports 1 suddenly decides to broadcast more than just Daytona/NHMS/Bristol, NBCSN decides they want to do it again like they did in 2010, or NASCAR comes out with their own channel to show all NWMT/NWSMT/K&N races on. None of which are likely to happen any time soon.

[Gil]

Speed is extra on Comcast. Well, at least in my CT franchise area.

[bud]

Not on Cablevision, but the rest of this sounds about right.

Regarding Mods on Network TV- ESPN only shows 3 Cup races on ABC. The three night races. And now, I just learned today that 2 NNS races will be shown on ESPNEWS of all channels. Yes, still televised, but no Truck races, almost no NNS races, and only 1/3rd of the Cup schedule is on network TV. Based on that, you can't expect the NWMT to be shown on network television.
?
The best thing that could happen is either SPEED/Fox Sports 1 suddenly decides to broadcast more than just Daytona/NHMS/Bristol, NBCSN decides they want to do it again like they did in 2010, or NASCAR comes out with their own channel to show all NWMT/NWSMT/K&N races on. None of which are likely to happen any time soon.

Yeah its suprising with all the close cup racing that they are even still on tv when will the drives teams and nascar get it. It has to be interesting. There was a time when it was all good not just follow the leader!

[kinserfan11]

Does anyone know what time and channel the race will be on tv ; if it is on ?

[limodmaniac]

How do you get tickets ahead of time? Do you need a Nascar license to get into the pit area?

[uticamike]

How do you get tickets ahead of time? Do you need a Nascar license to get into the pit area?

I don't believe there is a NASCAR event anywhere that doesn't require a license to enter the pits. That is the primary reason I won't be

heading south this Feb.

[Sicklajoie]

I don't believe there is a NASCAR event anywhere that doesn't require a license to enter the pits. That is the primary reason I won't be

heading south this Feb.
???
You don't need a NASCAR license to get into the pits at Stafford, just to go out into the infield.

[JWfor8x]

I don't believe there is a NASCAR event anywhere that doesn't require a license to enter the pits. That is the primary reason I won't be

heading south this Feb.

I went into the pits for last years Riverhead race and I have no NASCAR license.

[kinserfan11]

Does anyone know what time and channel the race will be on tv ; if it is on ? Heres what I found on Speed site http://www.speedtv.com/schedule/filter/date/2013-2-18 7pm est to 830 pm est

[kinserfan11]

Heres what I found on Speed site http://www.speedtv.com/schedule/filter/date/2013-2-18 7pm est to 830 pm est

That Was for Nascar Whelen All American Series at 7pm and Modified Tour will be Teusday at 7pm to 830 pm est here http://www.speedtv.com/schedule/filter/date/2013-2-19

[MJProcko]

2706

just a few weeks away.......

[CuriousGeorge]

22 cars entered so far

[MOD11RACER]

No NASCAR License needed to enter the pits at the UNOH Battle @ The Beach. But here comes the catch. You will need two tickets if you want to enter the pits and then go sit in the grandstands. 1 ticket for the pits and 1 ticket for the grandstands.


• Single-day general admission grandstand tickets are available for $25 and two-day general admission grandstand tickets are $40.

• Single-day pit passes are available for $25 and two-day pit passes are $35.

• Kids 12 and under are free in the general admission grandstands.

• A four-day ticket package, which includes admission to the Lucas Oil Slick Mist 200/Daytona Shootout doubleheader on Feb. 16 and Daytona 500 Qualifying Presented By Kroger on Feb. 17, as well as a general admission grandstand ticket and pit pass for the UNOH Battle At The Beach, is available for $99.

Four-day admission (includes UNOH Battle At The Beach two-day general admission seating and two-day pit pass; DAYTONA Shootout general admission infield & grandstand; DAYTONA 500 Qualiyfing presented by Kroger general admission infield & grandstand & Sprint FANZONE access) $99.

[MJProcko]

looks like K&N West Driver Kyle Larson will be in Bono's 7ny.....

[limodmaniac]

Isn't that going against the rules sort of?

[RBH]

No, he can compete in any race, just not a guaranteed starter. He is not a regular in the big 3.

[limodmaniac]

Still stinks.. Put a MODIFIED guy in the modified! Coby, George Brunnhoelzl, just to name a couple.

[MOD11RACER]

Kyle Larson Makes His Battle at the Beach Plans

NASCAR Battle - 2/1/13

National Speed Sport News reported today 2012 NASCAR K&N Pro Series East Champion Kyle Larson will compete in the NASCAR Whelen Modified portion of the Battle at the Beach at Daytona International Speedway, February 18 and 19. Larson will drive Earnhardt-Ganassi Racing crew chief Kevin "Bono" Manion's 7NY Modified that has been driven to Modified victories by Ryan Newman and Ryan Preece in years past. Larson is an EGR development driver.

The last sentence says it all.

[RBH]

I agree but money talks or in this case "your boss". I just hope he doesn't try to over achieve. On the bright side, more publicity for THE tour.

[JWfor8x]

Kyle Larson Makes His Battle at the Beach Plans

NASCAR Battle - 2/1/13

National Speed Sport News reported today 2012 NASCAR K&N Pro Series East Champion Kyle Larson will compete in the NASCAR Whelen Modified portion of the Battle at the Beach at Daytona International Speedway, February 18 and 19. Larson will drive Earnhardt-Ganassi Racing crew chief Kevin "Bono" Manion's 7NY Modified that has been driven to Modified victories by Ryan Newman and Ryan Preece in years past. Larson is an EGR development driver.

The last sentence says it all.

I agree with the limodmaniac, it does stink. I have nothing at all against Kyle Larson and I hope that he enjoys great success in his career, but I think that Banion is going against the spirit of the race and it rubs me the wrong way.

[Rob29]

I read on Twitter that Doug Coby will be in Ole Blue in Daytona.

[nwtroyer39]

I agree with the limodmaniac, it does stink. I have nothing at all against Kyle Larson and I hope that he enjoys great success in his career, but I think that Banion is going against the spirit of the race and it rubs me the wrong way.

I do not feel it is against the "spirit of the rule" seeing as Larson was a full-time driver, and series champion, in the east series.
Bono could always just leave the car at home and do nothing to help the allready struggling modified count.

But this is just my opinion.

[nwtroyer39]

I read on Twitter that Doug Coby will be in Ole Blue in Daytona.

Read that he will be in the back up "Ole Blue" renumbered 52!

[CASHCAD45]

Yep, STINKS!! Just like just about everything to do with this side show!! Anybody putting up an over/under on how many cars showup ? I'll say 27 Glory seekers with $$$$ to BUUURRN!!!

[RBH]

What is the # of official entries now?

[BigMac]

Yep, STINKS!! Just like just about everything to do with this side show!! Anybody putting up an over/under on how many cars showup ? I'll say 27 Glory seekers with $$$$ to BUUURRN!!!

Mods have been going to New Smyrna in February for 47 years. Why is one night out of eight at the big track such a bad idea. Especially with the opportunity to race on live TV and possibly take home some big bucks.

[catfish]

Mods have been going to New Smyrna in February for 47 years. Why is one night out of eight at the big track such a bad idea. Especially with the opportunity to race on live TV and possibly take home some big bucks.

Exactly Mac, with counts dwindling at NSS it can only help as well. And I believe that was part of the olive branch extended with the NSS Nascar sanctioning!

[CASHCAD45]

As i've said before, in the past several years only abot 4 or 5 ACTUAL tour teams(not drivers or part timers) have gone to NSS. Mostly ones that don't have to worry about finances. I"M still gonna be REALLY happy& apologetic if we have a overflow field at THE HEAD in September!

[WEEZER]

Nascar home track website in the article on ron silk racing @ daytona reports 22 mod entries so far. great article on kyle larson in this months speedway illustrated. world of outlaws booked to race at new egypt this summer!!!

[MJProcko]

2707

It's almost time for real racing........

[CASHCAD45]

Icebreaker's about 9 weeks away. Still a ways to go!!

[BigMac]

2707

It's almost time for real racing........

Less than 3 weeks now!

[JWfor8x]

Icebreaker's about 9 weeks away. Still a ways to go!!

Actually, MJProcko and BigMac have it right. Real racing, modified racing, begins in Florida real soon. You don't like the Battle at the Beach and you presumably don't like what goes on at New Smyrna either and that's okay. I won't even try and say that your reasons for not liking the Florida racing are not valid. What I do find not valid is your dismissal of those events as not being real. Enjoy the Icebreaker.

[MJProcko]

Actually I am getting a head start on Speedweeks this weekend as PASS is runing at Auburndale Sat. unless the car count stays as slim as on the pre-entries.

[CASHCAD45]

Actually I am getting a head start on Speedweeks this weekend as PASS is runing at Auburndale Sat. unless the car count stays as slim as on the pre-entries.

As this is the WMT thread ,you are correct NSS means next to nothing to me,too many unregulated shananigans just like a goofy WWE event,I usually do get a few laughs out of it though ,Maybe with the NASCAR sanc. this year will bemore controlled & fair we'll see in a few short days. And yep ,the Icebreaker IS the start of the real WMT season(all the big boys ther and racing for EVERY spot & point till the checkered flag drops!

[MJProcko]

2708
As this is the WMT thread ,you are correct NSS means next to nothing to me,too many unregulated shananigans just like a goofy WWE event,I usually do get a few laughs out of it though ,Maybe with the NASCAR sanc. this year will bemore controlled & fair we'll see in a few short days. And yep ,the Icebreaker IS the start of the real WMT season(all the big boys ther and racing for EVERY spot & point till the checkered flag drops!

Very profound thoughts, I am sure that Saturday night while enjoying a beer, boiled peanuts and actual racing, I' will drift off and start to ponder how I posted about a speedweeks race in a thread about a speedweeks race...... ok probably not. Besides if you start to look closely at the attached photo.... those PASS cars start to look like modifieds to me.


Out of sheer morbid curiousity, I wonder what you consider so uncrotrolled and unfair about NSS 2012? Careful though, I'm not sure you would consider this the correct forum to post it in.

[CASHCAD45]

2708

Very profound thoughts, I am sure that Saturday night while enjoying a beer, boiled peanuts and actual racing, I' will drift off and start to ponder how I posted about a speedweeks race in a thread about a speedweeks race...... ok probably not. Besides if you start to look closely at the attached photo.... those PASS cars start to look like modifieds to me.


Out of sheer morbid curiousity, I wonder what you consider so uncrotrolled and unfair about NSS 2012? Careful though, I'm not sure you would consider this the correct forum to post it in.

YEP! with all the cheating, intentional fencing & flying fists the price of a gs ticket is always a bargain! Won't be long now.

[Magicshoes12]

YEP! with all the cheating, intentional fencing & flying fists the price of a gs ticket is always a bargain! Won't be long now.

Did you just describe the Cup Series??

[DaFingz]

YEP! with all the cheating, intentional fencing & flying fists the price of a gs ticket is always a bargain! Won't be long now.

I would rather pay 25 bucks for a 100 lap action packed race at NSS than 38 bucks for any of the single file snoozers that the tour puts on at Stafford. NSS puts on a good show and it is REAL modified racing. Can't wait for Feb 22nd, beach all day then the Richie Evans Memorial 100 lapper with 3 dollar Yuenglings at night. Yup, sounds like a REAL good time to me.

[CuriousGeorge]

Burt Myers said he's racing the 2 extra distance mod races at NSS

[CASHCAD45]

I would rather pay 25 bucks for a 100 lap action packed race at NSS than 38 bucks for any of the single file snoozers that the tour puts on at Stafford. NSS puts on a good show and it is REAL modified racing. Can't wait for Feb 22nd, beach all day then the Richie Evans Memorial 100 lapper with 3 dollar Yuenglings at night. Yup, sounds like a REAL good time to me.

Never said NSS was't exciting,I wouldh't go to a place for 35 years and not feel entertained it is worth every penny! that said in all those years I don't beleive I've ever seen a pole or race won with a TOTALY legal car .May have happaned but I doubt it. Never hurt the fun factor though!!

[limodmaniac]

http://hometracks.nascar.com/node/8839

[limodmaniac]

http://hometracks.nascar.com/node/8840

[limodmaniac]

CAR DRIVER/HOMETOWN TEAM OWNER CREW CHIEF DRIVER TWITTER
1 Burt Myers, Walnut Cove, N.C. CitruSafe/Budget Sales & Licensing Ford Kim Myers TBA @BurtMyers
2 Todd Szegedy, Ridgefield, Conn. UNOH/Dunleavy Repair Ford Mike Smeriglio, III Philip Moran
3 Ted Christopher, Plainville, Conn. Cape Cod Copper/Silver Dollar Const. Chevrolet Jan Boehler Scott Richards
4 Jason Myers, Walnut Cove, N.C. Myers Racing Ford Gary Myers Gary Myers @Jason4Myers
6 Ron Silk, Norwalk, Conn. TS Haulers Chevrolet Ed Partridge Tom Grasso
07 Patrick Emerling, Orchard Park, N.Y. Emerling Chevrolet Dealership Chevrolet Jennifer Emerling Michael Paquette
7 Kyle Larson, Elk Grove, Calif. * Menards Chevrolet TBA TBA @KyleLarsonRacin
8 Dalton Baldwin, Oldsmar, Fla. * Dalton Baldwin Racing Chevrolet Bobby Baldwin Bobby Baldwin @Dalton_Baldwin
11 Andy Seuss, Hampstead, N.H. Phoenix Pre-Owned/RAHMOC Engines Chevrolet Eddie Harvey Eddie Harvey @AndySeuss
16 Ryan Preece, Berlin, Conn. East-West Marine/Diversified Metals Ford Eric Sanderson Stan Szaban @RyanPreece16
18 Ken Heagy, Calverton, N.Y. Buoy One Seafood Chevrolet Robert Pollifrone Greg Gorman
20 Steve Park, East Northport, N.Y. UNOH Ford Mike Smeriglio, III Ron Ste. Marie @SteveParkee
21 J.R. Bertuccio Jr., Centereach, N.Y. Gershow Recycling Chevrolet Joseph Bertuccio John Cushing
22 Mike Stefanik, Coventry, R.I. Robert B. Our Co./Canto & Sons Paving Chevrolet Chris Our Brad Lafontaine @MikeStefanik
25 John Smith, Mount Airy, N.C. G-Oil Chevrolet Misty Smith Mike Smith
33 Gary Fountain Sr. Clermont, Fla. Fountain Transportation Services Chevrolet Nanette Fountain Jeff Swan
40 Luke Fleming, Mt. Airy, N.C. * Jerry Hunt Auto Sales Chevrolet Frank Fleming TBA
41 Donny Lia, Jericho, N.Y. Mystic Missile Racing Dodge Robert Garbarino Dan Laferriere
44 Bobby Santos, Franklin, Mass. Robert B. Our Co./Canto & Sons Paving Chevrolet Chris Our TBA @BobbySantosIII
51 Justin Bonsignore, Holtsville, N.Y. M3 Technology Chevrolet Ken Massa John Sanford @JBonsignore
52 Doug Coby, Milford, Conn. Reynolds Auto Wrkg/Furnace &Duct Chevrolet Wayne Darling John McKenna @doug_coby
58 Eric Goodale, Riverhead, N.Y. RBS Design Showroom Chevrolet Edgar Goodale Jason Shephard @GoodieMOD58
65 Danny Bohn, Freehold, N.J. Rustoleum/Rifenburg Construction Chevrolet Eddie Bohn Eddie Bohn @DBohn659
68 Johnny Bush, Huntington Station, N.Y. Buoy One Seafood/Two Bros Scrap Mtl Chevrolet Charlene Bush TBA
70 Jeremy Gerstner, Tampa, Fla. * GMR Complete Lawn Care Chevrolet Dawn Gerstner Derek Silver
71 Jimmy Zacharias, Candor, N.Y. * Wilbur Auto Sales Chevrolet TBA TBA @J_Zach71_Racing
73 Cole Powell, Mt. Brydges, Ontario, Canada * Copp's Buildall Chevrolet Todd Powell Todd Powell @ColePowell
79 Woody Pitkat, Stafford, Conn. Hill Enterprises/Coors Light Pontiac Sandra Hill David Hill
85 Louie Mechalides, Tyngsboro, Mass. * Stuart’s Automotive Chevrolet Kevin Stuard Kenny Stuart
96 Dave Brigati, Calverton, N.Y. * JDL Environmental Chevrolet Brian Schwarz Brian Schwarz
97 Bryan Dauzat, Alexandria, La. O.B. Builders Chevrolet Bryan Dauzat Todd Cooper
99 Jamie Tomaino, Howell, N.J. Supreme Manufacturing Chevrolet Trey Tomaino Trey Tomaino
TBD Brandon Ward, Winston-Salem, N.C. Kevin Powell Mtspts/Crane & Rigging Chevrolet Bryan Fishel Jim Hire

[MOD11RACER]

Full Field for the Modifieds with the 60 Mod from PA. Who would of though.

Mods have more entries than K&N. 34 Mods vs 30 K&N. Hmmmmmmmmmm.

[CASHCAD45]

CAR DRIVER/HOMETOWN TEAM OWNER CREW CHIEF DRIVER TWITTER
1 Burt Myers, Walnut Cove, N.C. CitruSafe/Budget Sales & Licensing Ford Kim Myers TBA @BurtMyers
2 Todd Szegedy, Ridgefield, Conn. UNOH/Dunleavy Repair Ford Mike Smeriglio, III Philip Moran
3 Ted Christopher, Plainville, Conn. Cape Cod Copper/Silver Dollar Const. Chevrolet Jan Boehler Scott Richards
4 Jason Myers, Walnut Cove, N.C. Myers Racing Ford Gary Myers Gary Myers @Jason4Myers
6 Ron Silk, Norwalk, Conn. TS Haulers Chevrolet Ed Partridge Tom Grasso
07 Patrick Emerling, Orchard Park, N.Y. Emerling Chevrolet Dealership Chevrolet Jennifer Emerling Michael Paquette
7 Kyle Larson, Elk Grove, Calif. * Menards Chevrolet TBA TBA @KyleLarsonRacin
8 Dalton Baldwin, Oldsmar, Fla. * Dalton Baldwin Racing Chevrolet Bobby Baldwin Bobby Baldwin @Dalton_Baldwin
11 Andy Seuss, Hampstead, N.H. Phoenix Pre-Owned/RAHMOC Engines Chevrolet Eddie Harvey Eddie Harvey @AndySeuss
16 Ryan Preece, Berlin, Conn. East-West Marine/Diversified Metals Ford Eric Sanderson Stan Szaban @RyanPreece16
18 Ken Heagy, Calverton, N.Y. Buoy One Seafood Chevrolet Robert Pollifrone Greg Gorman
20 Steve Park, East Northport, N.Y. UNOH Ford Mike Smeriglio, III Ron Ste. Marie @SteveParkee
21 J.R. Bertuccio Jr., Centereach, N.Y. Gershow Recycling Chevrolet Joseph Bertuccio John Cushing
22 Mike Stefanik, Coventry, R.I. Robert B. Our Co./Canto & Sons Paving Chevrolet Chris Our Brad Lafontaine @MikeStefanik
25 John Smith, Mount Airy, N.C. G-Oil Chevrolet Misty Smith Mike Smith
33 Gary Fountain Sr. Clermont, Fla. Fountain Transportation Services Chevrolet Nanette Fountain Jeff Swan
40 Luke Fleming, Mt. Airy, N.C. * Jerry Hunt Auto Sales Chevrolet Frank Fleming TBA
41 Donny Lia, Jericho, N.Y. Mystic Missile Racing Dodge Robert Garbarino Dan Laferriere
44 Bobby Santos, Franklin, Mass. Robert B. Our Co./Canto & Sons Paving Chevrolet Chris Our TBA @BobbySantosIII
51 Justin Bonsignore, Holtsville, N.Y. M3 Technology Chevrolet Ken Massa John Sanford @JBonsignore
52 Doug Coby, Milford, Conn. Reynolds Auto Wrkg/Furnace &Duct Chevrolet Wayne Darling John McKenna @doug_coby
58 Eric Goodale, Riverhead, N.Y. RBS Design Showroom Chevrolet Edgar Goodale Jason Shephard @GoodieMOD58
65 Danny Bohn, Freehold, N.J. Rustoleum/Rifenburg Construction Chevrolet Eddie Bohn Eddie Bohn @DBohn659
68 Johnny Bush, Huntington Station, N.Y. Buoy One Seafood/Two Bros Scrap Mtl Chevrolet Charlene Bush TBA
70 Jeremy Gerstner, Tampa, Fla. * GMR Complete Lawn Care Chevrolet Dawn Gerstner Derek Silver
71 Jimmy Zacharias, Candor, N.Y. * Wilbur Auto Sales Chevrolet TBA TBA @J_Zach71_Racing
73 Cole Powell, Mt. Brydges, Ontario, Canada * Copp's Buildall Chevrolet Todd Powell Todd Powell @ColePowell
79 Woody Pitkat, Stafford, Conn. Hill Enterprises/Coors Light Pontiac Sandra Hill David Hill
85 Louie Mechalides, Tyngsboro, Mass. * Stuart’s Automotive Chevrolet Kevin Stuard Kenny Stuart
96 Dave Brigati, Calverton, N.Y. * JDL Environmental Chevrolet Brian Schwarz Brian Schwarz
97 Bryan Dauzat, Alexandria, La. O.B. Builders Chevrolet Bryan Dauzat Todd Cooper
99 Jamie Tomaino, Howell, N.J. Supreme Manufacturing Chevrolet Trey Tomaino Trey Tomaino
TBD Brandon Ward, Winston-Salem, N.C. Kevin Powell Mtspts/Crane & Rigging Chevrolet Bryan Fishel Jim Hire

Whats the format for thi racing exhibition?150 lap no tires/reg pit stop or coffee break)

[CASHCAD45]

]Whats the format for thi racing exhibition?150 lap no tires/reg pit stop or coffee break)[/QUOTE]

[NH351]

http://hometracks.nascar.com/Comprehensive_Coverage_Set_For_Daytona_UNOH-Battle-At-The-Beach

features will be broadcast live on Speed. For coverage of practice and the heat races it will be covered at NASCARHomeTracks.com via live streaming video.

[CASHCAD45]

[QUOTE=BigMac;179782]The official Speedweeks press release doesn't even mention the Bash at the Beach. I got this off of Jayski but the release was sent out to all motorsports media outlets

What a SHOCKER!!! Are you suprised? It should be callrd the SIDESHOW AT THE BEACH,kinda like the legend in turn one at NHMS an after thought nobody gives a %X#* about.

[MOD11RACER]

Add 23 Brian Loftin.

That makes 35 entries so far. Looking good.

[jpj]

http://hometracks.nascar.com/Comprehensive_Coverage_Set_For_Daytona_UNOH-Battle-At-The-Beach

features will be broadcast live on Speed. For coverage of practice and the heat races it will be covered at NASCARHomeTracks.com via live streaming video.

Live stream link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liqBT5-pzZY


Monday, February 18

10 AM - 12 PM NASCAR Whelen All-American Series practice
12:30 - 1:50 PM NASCAR Whelen All-American Series final practice
2 - 3:30 PM NASCAR K&N Pro Series Practice
2:15 - 3:40 PM NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour Practice
3:45 - 5:15 PM Practice

Tuesday, February 19
11:30 AM Backstretch gates open
12:15 - 1 PM NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour practice
1:10 - 1:55 PM NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour final practice
2:05 - 2:50 NASCAR K&N Pro Series practice
3 - 3:45 PM NASCAR K&N Pro Series final practice
5 PM NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour Qualifying Race #1 (25 Laps)
5:20 PM NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour Qualifying Race #2 (25 Laps)
5:40 PM NASCAR K&N Pro Series Qualifying Race #1 (25 Laps)
6 PM NASCAR K&N Pro Series Qualifying Race #2 (25 Laps)

[RGeeProductions]

Thanks guys for sending folks away from our website.
We will have updates, today was facebook, tomorrow will be our usual LIVE coverage, for before, during and after information and news.

[Groundpounder]

Watching live video trumps text based live updates any day, I don't care what site it's on.

After watching that first lm heat, this might not be so bad after all. There won't be any outside passes, but they might be able to pass on the inside without using the bumper much.

[Groundpounder]

BTW, question for all you "Whelen ******": If the WMT is the best of the best, how did some kid from California come in and turn the fastest time in practice and a WSMT driver was 2nd quick? Just wondering...

[Rob29]

BTW, question for all you "Whelen ******": If the WMT is the best of the best, how did some kid from California come in and turn the fastest time in practice and a WSMT driver was 2nd quick? Just wondering...

Well Kyle Larson can pretty much race anything and he's also in a car that is fast every time it shows up at a race track.

This track is like Bowman-Gray Stadium but just a bit bigger and Burt Myers is a master at that track.

3,4, and 5 in practice were all NWMT guys though so there's that.

[BigMac]

I think Myers has to be considered the favorite. That track is made for wide tires and chrome horns. Larson should have been blacked flagged tonight for wrecking the leader on the front stretch. He set the standard for tomorrow though. What comes around goes around and no tour guy is going to let him walk away with the money tomorrow. Too bad there were only a few dozen fans in the stands. It was a good race.

[CASHCAD45]

WMT/SWMT it's all the same to me, either one is head & shoulders above any other mod series or open event.

[Rob29]

I think Myers has to be considered the favorite. That track is made for wide tires and chrome horns. Larson should have been blacked flagged tonight for wrecking the leader on the front stretch. He set the standard for tomorrow though. What comes around goes around and no tour guy is going to let him walk away with the money tomorrow. Too bad there were only a few dozen fans in the stands. It was a good race.

I agree on all points. I think Burt will be the favorite tomorrow night (by the way his car is beautiful).

He definitely should have been penalized. They penalized someone else earlier for overaggressive driving.

And no way in hell a modified guy lets him win tomorrow. If he's leading and a tour regular is close behind I doubt he makes it to the finish. He opened the door for it now. And whomever does take him out will become a hero on Twitter.

[SUfan]

I posted two stories with driver thoughts after Monday's practice. Go to www.lowellsun.com/motorsports and click on the Blogs link to read them. Quotes are from B. Myers, TC, Preece, Szegedy and Stefanik.

[wrench1]

[QUOTE=Rob29;180383]Well Kyle Larson can pretty much race anything and he's also in a car that is fast every time it shows up at a race track.

This track is like Bowman-Gray Stadium but just a bit bigger and Burt Myers is a master at that track.

Different story tonight.larson pushed and shoved his way all night.try that with 3,22,1,4 and others.they are not going to let him have a chance to repeat.they see how he races,and will not give him any slack.period.i liked the race though,it was a not half bad race.thumbs up from me for a race that looked like it took place in walmarts parking lot.

[JWfor8x]

BTW, question for all you "Whelen ******": If the WMT is the best of the best, how did some kid from California come in and turn the fastest time in practice and a WSMT driver was 2nd quick? Just wondering...

Maybe he's an extremely talented kid running in a car that was set up by a very professional bunch?

[Magicshoes12]

Maybe he's an extremely talented kid running in a car that was set up by a very professional bunch?
Where did they drill the holes this time?? LOL :lol:

[CASHCAD45]

Where did they drill the holes this time?? LOL :lol:

Talented YES classy NOOO!!!!

[Groundpounder]

Today's live feed is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-_MTipfZfQ#!

Final practice which will set the heat race lineups is about to start.

[Rob29]

[QUOTE=Rob29;180383]Well Kyle Larson can pretty much race anything and he's also in a car that is fast every time it shows up at a race track.

This track is like Bowman-Gray Stadium but just a bit bigger and Burt Myers is a master at that track.

Different story tonight.larson pushed and shoved his way all night.try that with 3,22,1,4 and others.they are not going to let him have a chance to repeat.they see how he races,and will not give him any slack.period.i liked the race though,it was a not half bad race.thumbs up from me for a race that looked like it took place in walmarts parking lot.
My comment that you quoted was about modified practice before the LM race. How he won that race doesn't change the fact that he's an extremely talented driver and that's one of the reasons why he was so fast in modified practice yesterday and again today.

[1987gnx]

Would've liked to have seen Tim Brown, GB3 and LW Miller make it to the race. I'm 30 min from the stadium and go most sat. nights. Burt has an advantage for sure.
Hope its a good race for the fans and the series.

[jpj]

Today's live feed is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-_MTipfZfQ#!

Final practice which will set the heat race lineups is about to start.

Thanks for that link! I was looking for it earlier and could only find the link to yesterday's stream.

[NONCENT$]

Hi All,
I would just like to take the time to add a couple of comments, and get ready for the race(s) tonight.
1. Last night's finish to the bondo required, flapping fenders race, was a joke. Larson should have the victory rescinded, and awarded to Falk. (Rubbin is racing, but when a car is drilled several times till it goes around, is not racing).
2. When I first saw the track, and watched a few laps, I thought the racing was going to be a disaster, but I now think we are all in for a great show tonight (at least the mods).
3. I have yet to see any mention on this board, so I will add this: Bobby III smoked the field in the midgets last night over at NSS. The kid is the real deal. If he was not so humble, such a great person from a great family, and had an open checkbook, he would be in the top division of Nascar, or the IRL by now. He can handle anything with 4 wheels, and has won in just about any type of car he has driven. I wish Bobby great success tonight, the rest of speedweeks in Fl, and am excited that he will run the entire tour this year!
4. I dont think Kyle Larson has anything over Bobby as far as raw talent!

Thanks, enjoy !

[uticamike]

What really sux here is we can't feature the Mods from NH on the tube but we can have this joke of a cautionfest in primetime. Non Mod fans are going...yawn. Sad.

[Bostonian]

2/3 of race has been run under caution :( Boring

[BigMac]

This is brutal.

[Groundpounder]

this race needs a 3 spin rule. Dauzat has gotten way too much camera time that way.

[uticamike]

Does Zig Zag win this or does he get horned?

[Groundpounder]

Well, NASCAR has managed to thoroughly embarrass the Modifieds in grin of a national audience. Mission accomplished.

[BigMac]

I don't blame Nascar. This is on the drivers

[uticamike]

Does Zig Zag win this or does he get horned?

Mike, you meant to say Stefanik didn't you?

[NC Mudcat]

surely no one is surprised by this finish. NASCAR said last night that this type of thing is okay. And it was Daytona and a lot of money and bragging rights on the line. And Park hasn't won in years. And Goodale shoved Park into Steffy, no matter what Goodale just said. That's enough reasons. No shock here!

And so much for Burt's advantage, huh?

[btgoss]

Anyone know if Donny Lia is ok? He wasn't looking so good sitting in four when they showed him on TV. He was puking and looked green.

[wrench1]

I don't blame Nascar. This is on the drivers

i totally 100% agree.the drivers screwed this up ,not nascar for a change.lia barffin on himself was the highlight.

[uticamike]

Anyone know if Donny Lia is ok? He wasn't looking so good sitting in four when they showed him on TV. He was puking and looked green.

I guess his view of the race wasn't any better than mine. I can't wait to hear all the NASole's (NASCAR on line experts) defend this joke. (But Mike at least the Mods were on

TV). Yeah....that's what matters most. ( Mike Joy......I apologize if you heard UticaMike's comments' )........ Donnie.. hold on...I got a bag for you

[csg]

I dont have the stats but surely over half the race had to be run under caution. Not a very good show. I think most of it has to do with the track configuration, the latemodels last night were almost as bad. I think starting too many cars (every one who showed up) may have contributed to some of the issues. Stefanik did get taken out but you can not say that on the air no matter how disappointed you are with the finish. I blame Speed for that one you could tell he didnt want to be bothered and you stick a microphone and ask him questions about the finish and ask him to comment on it even after he states I dont want to say anything. Still doesnt reflect well on the series. I am not sure New Smyrna is going to pick up that many cars, it seems like a large portion of the field had damage or issues which may deter them from finishing up the week at Smyrna. Do you think this event will be deemed successful and scheduled again next year. If so do you think the Modifieds will be invited back after that show?

[csg]

speed51/nascar live update is reporting Matt Hirschman broke his left wrist at the battle at Daytona event tonight. May be out unable to race at New Smyrna. This event may actually be a net negative for New Smyrna Modified car count.

[BigMac]

I agree with everything you said about Stefanik. CE Falk had the same thing happen to him last night and he took the highroad. The 7 time champ could learn a thing or two from the kid. The look on his face was priceless though. I have to find that on youtube. Whether or not this event returns will be directly decided on how many tickets DIS sold. The mods should just decline any future offers should they come their way.

How about Steve Park!! Good for him. He passed them all tonight. Hard to argue with those results.

[RGeeProductions]

I dont have the stats but surely over half the race had to be run under caution. Not a very good show. I think most of it has to do with the track configuration, the latemodels last night were almost as bad. I think starting too many cars (every one who showed up) may have contributed to some of the issues. Stefanik did get taken out but you can not say that on the air no matter how disappointed you are with the finish. I blame Speed for that one you could tell he didnt want to be bothered and you stick a microphone and ask him questions about the finish and ask him to comment on it even after he states I dont want to say anything. Still doesnt reflect well on the series. I am not sure New Smyrna is going to pick up that many cars, it seems like a large portion of the field had damage or issues which may deter them from finishing up the week at Smyrna. Do you think this event will be deemed successful and scheduled again next year. If so do you think the Modifieds will be invited back after that show?

89 laps of caution
Average Speed: 38.610 mph
http://hometracks.nascar.com/node/8876

[SteveS]

Well, NASCAR has managed to thoroughly embarrass the Modifieds in grin of a national audience. Mission accomplished.

Sorry Groundpounder, I have to disagree on that one. The only way Nascar embasassed the modified is by allowing that debacle to be aired. The drivers have to shoulder that mess. I think this is almost inevitable when you mix a bunch of drivers from multiple series together. They don't know who the squirrels are and they don't have to race them at the next show so why have any respect, just dump them and the odds of retaliation aren't as bad. Add in big money and the brains become unwired. It's in the recipe, but Nascar didn't force them to drive like that.

[CASHCAD45]

89 laps of caution
Average Speed: 38.610 mph
http://hometracks.nascar.com/node/8876

Well I told yoi this was gonna be a joke! Can we Please get to Caraway& Thompson for some REAL racing on REAL race tracks!

[Goldy]

… what you saw there last night was someone’s stupid idea come to fruition, that wasn’t racing – it was an embarrassment. The track layout wasn’t the only thing wrong with this mess – it’s really the mentality that has developed over the years. I’m convinced, nobody knows how to actually race anymore and using “it’s short track racing” as an excuse is just plain old.. and wrong!!!

Believe it or not it’s actually possible to race without dumping the leader to win. I like Steve Park but that was sad – Goodale just about gave away his intentions to dump em’ both.. but hey, it’s ok cause it’s just good ole’ short track racing right? Give me a break.. Stefanik had every right to let it fly last night, he’s one of the very few left in racing that actually know how to race..

Please don’t let that event happen again next year.

Lia (and I do hope he’s ok and feeling better) summed up that race perfectly..

[Groundpounder]

1. He faced a lot of stiff competition, but Eric Goodale gets the azzhat of the race award with his post race comments. What a moron.

2. Besides the fact that the track itself is a joke, there were way too many cars in that race for that "track" to handle. I can already hear everyone saying how great it was that nascar "took care of" their teams by starting them all, but this is what you get when you focus solely on the teams and not on the show you're trying to present to the fans. Yes, the drivers need to take their share of the blame too, but I don't think the top 33 Cup drivers would have done much better in modifieds on that track.

3. The only thing worse than the race itself was SPEED's coverage. They looked like a bunch of rank amateurs. What kind of idiot doesn't keep the camera on the leaders on the last lap? Ya, I know, it's great that the mods were on tv. :rolleyes:

4. Gotta love Ryan Preece! If your car's 7' wide, he'll give ya 6. Same kind of thing he did to the 06 in that MRS race at Thompson last year.

5.

I agree with everything you said about Stefanik. CE Falk had the same thing happen to him last night and he took the highroad. The 7 time champ could learn a thing or two from the kid. The look on his face was priceless though. I have to find that on youtube. Whether or not this event returns will be directly decided on how many tickets DIS sold. The mods should just decline any future offers should they come their way.

How about Steve Park!! Good for him. He passed them all tonight. Hard to argue with those results.

Two things here: first, if that were Berggren or Punch doing the pit reporting, they would have been smart enough to come back later. These fools the networks have now are clueless. Second, it was probably easier for Falk to take the high road since as has been pointed out elsewhere, he's been guilty of similar moves int he past. Stefanik don't drive like that.

6.

89 laps of caution
Average Speed: 38.610 mph
http://hometracks.nascar.com/node/8876
Just another glaring example of Nascar's "false advertising" by counting caution laps (a "150 lap race" that has 61 laps of actual racing). If they repeat this fiasco, how about just making it 75 green flag laps? It was especially bad here since the pits were out in the back 40 and if you had to pit you were guaranteed going down at least 2 laps.


I can't wait to see how Nascar tries to spin (no pun intended) this one.

[CASHCAD45]

Agreed on almost all points.Weren't they suppsed to start 34 anyway? I don't they did anybody any favors.

[Groundpounder]

Agreed on almost all pints.

I'm usually pretty agreeable when I'm drinking "pints" too.

[art11758]

I listened on the MRN live feed cus I don't have Speed Channel. Over all, pretty disappointing. The post race interviews were interesting. When they got to Ted, the reporter mentioned that the car looked no worse for the wear, even the front bumper. To which TC quipped "we kill front bumpers. When I was with Mystique we would start the season with fifty of them...." I about spit out my diet coke.

[Groundpounder]

http://blogs.lowellsun.com/northeastmotorsports/2013/02/19/zacharias-cries-foul-nascar-transponder-snafu/

[MJProcko]

People crack me up over Stefanik's interview, Let's see, you bust your butt all night to win 20k and just as they are handing you the check I'll come by and knock you out of the way take the cash and then we'll stick a mic in front of your face and we'll see how you handle it. If your not the least bit emotional or upset over it people are going to take your 20k everytime they get the chance.

As for the race itself, yea it blew but it had excitement. The K&N race I almost dozed off around lap 100. Off to NSS........

[JWfor8x]

Well I told yoi this was gonna be a joke! Can we Please get to Caraway& Thompson for some REAL racing on REAL race tracks!

I, for one, will admit that I was wrong and you were right about this mess. Some people put it all on the drivers, but I don't. It was like having an oval race on a highway between traffic lights. There was no way for a clean pass of anybody except on restarts. Maybe NASCAR should have gone to single file restarts, that might have at least helped get a few more racing laps in, but there still would not have been many, if any clean passes. I still think that having a race in Florida during speedweeks could be great for the modifieds, but not there. It would have to be on a real race track. The really sad thing for me was that people who saw it on Speed and were not modified fans will never become modified fans. That debacle was horrible for modified racing and should never be repeated on that farce of a track.

[rim runner]

I can't wait to see how Nascar tries to spin (no pun intended) this one.

Oh NASCAR's PR person was on FB last night during the race claiming because most of the early cautions were caused by back markers and the top 10 could play follow the leader, the track really wasn't that bad.

Hopefully he stays in his hole and doesn't continue to insult real racers intelligence.

NASCAR is clueless about short track racing, and it appears many of it's employees are as well.

[CASHCAD45]

I, for one, will admit that I was wrong and you were right about this mess. Some people put it all on the drivers, but I don't. It was like having an oval race on a highway between traffic lights. There was no way for a clean pass of anybody except on restarts. Maybe NASCAR should have gone to single file restarts, that might have at least helped get a few more racing laps in, but there still would not have been many, if any clean passes. I still think that having a race in Florida during speedweeks could be great for the modifieds, but not there. It would have to be on a real race track. The really sad thing for me was that people who saw it on Speed and were not modified fans will never become modified fans. That debacle was horrible for modified racing and should never be repeated on that farce of a track.

AMEN!!! Now lets move on and hope this disaster doesn't undo all the good tv at NHMS does forhe WMT.

[JEFF]

The best part of the race was in the opening when they showed LI mod maniac in the stands. no one could have put on any kind of a show on that joke of a track. if nascar cant give them a real track to race on then dont bother. has anyone ever seen turns like that on a race track ? it made turns 3 and 4 at chemung look like a picnic. the track was a complete failure it had no chance. carnage at the beach !!!!!!

[BigMac]

People crack me up over Stefanik's interview, Let's see, you bust your butt all night to win 20k and just as they are handing you the check I'll come by and knock you out of the way take the cash and then we'll stick a mic in front of your face and we'll see how you handle it. If your not the least bit emotional or upset over it people are going to take your 20k everytime they get the chance.

As for the race itself, yea it blew but it had excitement. The K&N race I almost dozed off around lap 100. Off to NSS........

Stefanik knows better. Nascar slammed Tony Stewart for using those same words on TV a few years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if Nascar took similar actions with Stefanik. I'm assuming there won't be any FCC fines because it was on cable but those fines start around 500K for the networks. That's chump change to what Stefanik lost. The stick and ball players have microphones shoved in their face every night after tough losses. So do the Cup guys. Its part of the gig when your racing on TV. If the tour wants to remain on TV they need to act like they can handle being on TV.

[Modhauler]

Big Mac I had the same exact thoughts just as Stefanik made his remark. Should have stopped at saying nothing, because he did say" the wrong thing".

[Groundpounder]

Say what you want about Stefanik's interview, but I'll take honest emotion over the polished "pr speak" most of the others spew any day. A perfect example would be that punk that dumped the leader on the last lap of the K&N race and finished second. His post race interview made me want to punch him in the face.

[uticamike]

I, for one, will admit that I was wrong and you were right about this mess. Some people put it all on the drivers, but I don't. It was like having an oval race on a highway between traffic lights. There was no way for a clean pass of anybody except on restarts. Maybe NASCAR should have gone to single file restarts, that might have at least helped get a few more racing laps in, but there still would not have been many, if any clean passes. I still think that having a race in Florida during speedweeks could be great for the modifieds, but not there. It would have to be on a real race track. The really sad thing for me was that people who saw it on Speed and were not modified fans will never become modified fans. That debacle was horrible for modified racing and should never be repeated on that farce of a track.

JW I agree 100%. I had a dirt fan/buddy at work who I have been trying to "sell" modifieds to for awhile. He did watch it and gave me a ration today

like it was my fault. Bad enough that Matt Hirschman got hurt but to the casual fan this was a terrible "sell". This was Madhouse all over again without

Junior Miller. Imagine a non Mod fan who watched that show and then tuned in last night to a "real" race only to have that freak show reinforced to them.
"
Mean while Chuck and Matt put on a great show at NSS on Saturday night and no one knows it. Forget the "Beach" NASCAR. Next year get UNOH to

put up some big cash for a real purse and make the RE Memorial at NSS a primetime Modified show.

[Goldy]

He faced a lot of stiff competition, but Eric Goodale gets the azzhat of the race award with his post race comments. What a moron.

Agreed, further proof that some guys should just stay at their local short track...

[Axel]

i dont have much good to say about this race, so i wont....

[Gil]

Where are all of these bad comments everybody is talking about? I heard Mike's on Speed. Too bad Speed doesn't invest in some modern sound equipment so we can hear the roar of the cars.

[Robbyracer]

They say any press is good press:

http://jalopnik.com/tuesday-night-s-stock-car-race-was-a-total-****-show-309761184

[csg]

Sounds like we made a fan and I didnt think anything good would come from that event. The wwf regularly has good tv ratings probably beats out the nascar cup series weekly. Not sure the wrestling/jerry springer model is the direction the series should be heading towards but the drivers seemed to embrace it, for at least one night. I hear the crowds at bowman gray are significantly better then most other short tracks. Maybe we should embrace the madness. Just a bad show, nothing can be done to correct it at this point, just need to move on.

[Groundpounder]

I got a chuckle out of the last line.


Also there was a team entered as “Hillbilly Racing.” I have no jokes for that.

[MJProcko]

After getting home from NSS late last night I watched the race and FF through all the caution laps - When the cars were running it wasn't all that bad.... :-)

Some advise to Nascar, you got an awful lot of people to the track Tuesday night but they won't be back next year if the layout is the same. The layout as it is now is roughly 225 ft wide, spend the money and move the wall back to the access road at the lake, you got about 50 feet there. (plus it will get the supposedly covered drainge grates out of the way). As a reference, Riverhead is about , Auburndale is about 275, Bowman Gray is about 275. - the Go kart track outside the track is around 275 and the kennel club is 275..... if it is good enough the dogs it's good enough for Nascars's lower divisions. Then you have a chance to save what could be a great tradition.

Plus you get an extra 50 feet of run off before the cup cars hit the wall so you are making it safer.

[MOD11RACER]

1. He faced a lot of stiff competition, but Eric Goodale gets the azzhat of the race award with his post race comments. What a moron.

2. Besides the fact that the track itself is a joke, there were way too many cars in that race for that "track" to handle. I can already hear everyone saying how great it was that nascar "took care of" their teams by starting them all, but this is what you get when you focus solely on the teams and not on the show you're trying to present to the fans. Yes, the drivers need to take their share of the blame too, but I don't think the top 33 Cup drivers would have done much better in modifieds on that track.

3. The only thing worse than the race itself was SPEED's coverage. They looked like a bunch of rank amateurs. What kind of idiot doesn't keep the camera on the leaders on the last lap? Ya, I know, it's great that the mods were on tv. :rolleyes:

4. Gotta love Ryan Preece! If your car's 7' wide, he'll give ya 6. Same kind of thing he did to the 06 in that MRS race at Thompson last year.

5.


Two things here: first, if that were Berggren or Punch doing the pit reporting, they would have been smart enough to come back later. These fools the networks have now are clueless. Second, it was probably easier for Falk to take the high road since as has been pointed out elsewhere, he's been guilty of similar moves int he past. Stefanik don't drive like that.

6.

Just another glaring example of Nascar's "false advertising" by counting caution laps (a "150 lap race" that has 61 laps of actual racing). If they repeat this fiasco, how about just making it 75 green flag laps? It was especially bad here since the pits were out in the back 40 and if you had to pit you were guaranteed going down at least 2 laps.


I can't wait to see how Nascar tries to spin (no pun intended) this one.

You wouldn't know a good race driver or a good race if it hit you in the face. Preece can run with anybody.

You need to add that you hate anyone on the WMT or any WMT race.

[kinserfan11]

i dont have much good to say about this race, so i wont....

I have alot to say about the race but i will get thrown off this board and few others if i speak my mind so i wont !

[Gary66]

If they really wanted to include Modifieds and Late Models at Daytona they would go outside the track or across the street and build a real 1/3 or 4/10 mile track you can actually race on. And with the pit layout, it would have been better to have 100 green flag laps be the distance with cautions not counting. And I would also have a protect the leader rule and/or Delaware restarts.

I agree that it seems true short track racing is becoming a lost art.

[holleratme]

I dont have the stats but surely over half the race had to be run under caution. Not a very good show. I think most of it has to do with the track configuration, the latemodels last night were almost as bad. I think starting too many cars (every one who showed up) may have contributed to some of the issues. Stefanik did get taken out but you can not say that on the air no matter how disappointed you are with the finish. I blame Speed for that one you could tell he didnt want to be bothered and you stick a microphone and ask him questions about the finish and ask him to comment on it even after he states I dont want to say anything. Still doesnt reflect well on the series. I am not sure New Smyrna is going to pick up that many cars, it seems like a large portion of the field had damage or issues which may deter them from finishing up the week at Smyrna. Do you think this event will be deemed successful and scheduled again next year. If so do you think the Modifieds will be invited back after that show?

As a crewman that attended this crazy event........I sure hope they never have another one of these I did not see one lap of racing in 2 days....Where we were pitted the numbers on the scoring pylon could not be read

[JWfor8x]

If they really wanted to include Modifieds and Late Models at Daytona they would go outside the track or across the street and build a real 1/3 or 4/10 mile track you can actually race on. And with the pit layout, it would have been better to have 100 green flag laps be the distance with cautions not counting. And I would also have a protect the leader rule and/or Delaware restarts.

I agree that it seems true short track racing is becoming a lost art.

I agree with everything that you said, Gary. Unfortunatly, I don't expect to see them building anything as it would cost money to do. I still love the idea of a high paying modified race during Speedweeks, but I would rather they not have anything at all then repeat this.

[Groundpounder]

You wouldn't know a good race driver or a good race if it hit you in the face. Preece can run with anybody.

You need to add that you hate anyone on the WMT or any WMT race.

I see plenty of good drivers and good racing on the MRS, RoC, NEMA, ISMA, MSA, and at the dirt tracks I go to. Then I go to Thompson for a WMT event, and no one can pass without pushing the other guy up the track. As far as what I hate, i hate what passes for "racing" on the WMT these days. Jon McKennedy is as talented as anyone on the WMT, but he won't have success there because he refuses to race like a total douchebag. It's nice to see that some of the WMT drivers (Szegedy, for example) can come to an MRS event and actually race cleanly.

[worm]

ditto on jon mckennedy. very clean racer

[DaveMc]

They say any press is good press:

http://jalopnik.com/tuesday-night-s-stock-car-race-was-a-total-****-show-309761184

I like that the guy who wrote that had a good laugh about it, but in the end did not condemn the mods and is actually still interested in them. I don't know where he lives but hopefully he's got somewhere close enough he can go to see a live modified race!

[Groundpounder]

Stefanik made Jay Leno's monologue: http://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/video/monologue-part-2/n33122

[CASHCAD45]

If they really wanted to include Modifieds and Late Models at Daytona they would go outside the track or across the street and build a real 1/3 or 4/10 mile track you can actually race on. And with the pit layout, it would have been better to have 100 green flag laps be the distance with cautions not counting. And I would also have a protect the leader rule and/or Delaware restarts.

I agree that it seems true short track racing is becoming a lost art.

They have a wold class road course (with a REAL pit road) that would be great for WMT and K&N, so if they(NASCAR) want to really showcase these divisions during Feb Speedweeks put them with ROLEX24 week.If we can start a road course group of races on theWMT (Thompson,Daytona,"THE GLEN" ,Lime ROCK & NJ)I'd eveven be in favor of making it a points payiing (REAL) race. Expanding are horizon beyoynd just a token one a year RC makes sense to me.

[DR02]

They have a wold class road course (with a REAL pit road) that would be great for WMT and K&N, so if they(NASCAR) want to really showcase these divisions during Feb Speedweeks put them with ROLEX24 week.If we can start a road course group of races on theWMT (Thompson,Daytona,"THE GLEN" ,Lime ROCK & NJ)I'd eveven be in favor of making it a points payiing (REAL) race. Expanding are horizon beyoynd just a token one a year RC makes sense to me.

i think finding a real race course is a great idea. The problem with the road course during speed weeks is camper parking. You would need the infield empty for it to be safe, the way the road course winds around. Nascar is not going to give up that revenue for modifieds to race.
The problem they had was that the track was too different for most of the drivers and not enough practice.

[rim runner]

i think finding a real race course is a great idea. The problem with the road course during speed weeks is camper parking. You would need the infield empty for it to be safe, the way the road course winds around. Nascar is not going to give up that revenue for modifieds to race.
The problem they had was that the track was too different for most of the drivers and not enough practice.

It's been done before (running the mods on the road course during speed weeks), and it was when more people were going to speed weeks too.

You could have given those drivers 2 months to practice in that hole and the show wouldn't have been any better because there was no way to pass.

Either build a proper oval (maybe using the tri-oval), use the road course, or move it to a different location.

[CASHCAD45]

It's been done before (running the mods on the road course during speed weeks), and it was when more people were going to speed weeks too.

You could have given those drivers 2 months to practice in that hole and the show wouldn't have been any better because there was no way to pass.

Either build a proper oval (maybe using the tri-oval), use the road course, or move it to a different location.

You are correct Sir!

[modspeed]

hello ,,,what chassis was the steve park car ????

[SteveS]

hello ,,,what chassis was the steve park car ????

It is a Troyer car.

[csg]

Do you think if they move the inside retaining wall back so it is flush with Lake Loyd would make a better race? Probably gain another 30 to 50 feet making it less of a paperclip. I thought out of all the divisions racing there, the modifieds with big tires and light weight would have the best shot at producing a good race. Man, I could not have been more wrong. Even with the extra width, you would still have the issues of no banking and pit road. I think the ideas of 100 green flag laps and a deleware style restarts are good ideas but if you dont count cautions the race may never end. I think the biggest problem was the lack of officiating. You had drivers taking out the leader because they were getting away with it. That is on the officials and the precedent they set night 1 of anything goes. I will say it was good seeing Park out there, even if it was a win in controversial fashion.

[intense1]

WOW!...not one mention about Jimmy Zacharias' Pole lap mysteriously disappearing. The kid EARNED the Pole, but NASCAR said the transponder "squelch" was not adjusted properly during his qualifying run. My problem with that answer, is that since it was european style qualifying, and there were a half dozen other cars on the track at the time...how come JZ was the only one who had an issue being "TOO FAST"????? ...Later on, Luke Fleming was told he had an issue, too. HMMMMM....

[Muffy]

One thing that would help the race overall is to mandate 1 gear for everyone instead of a gear range. Too many lift (or rev chip) and brake points for that type of track. One guy lifts at the start/finish while the guy behind him lifts at the #3 sign board almost at corner entrance.....oops too late he got into the back of the guy in front of him. That happened all night long. One gear makes everyone lift about the same so there is no need to guess where the guy in front of you is going to lift. That track can host a good race, just need to work on a few things.

[TourFan Ed]

i am not an engineer but was wondering if it would be possible to create temporary banking in the turns using preformed sections of concrete or another material.

[Andy]

One thing that would help the race overall is to mandate 1 gear for everyone instead of a gear range. Too many lift (or rev chip) and brake points for that type of track. One guy lifts at the start/finish while the guy behind him lifts at the #3 sign board almost at corner entrance.....oops too late he got into the back of the guy in front of him. That happened all night long. One gear makes everyone lift about the same so there is no need to guess where the guy in front of you is going to lift. That track can host a good race, just need to work on a few things.

A "one gear only" rule would only promote more bump (or dump) and run. A driver, at this level, should be able to control his car enough to keep from hitting the car in front of him if they have a different lift point. Perhaps learning how to set up a pass (racetrack design aside, in this case), by watching your competitor's line, entry, lift point, etc, could promote better racing than the bumper tag that NASCAR seems to be ok with (which means they might love a gear rule, Haha!).

[bud]

An MRS flagman would have solved most the problems......lol

[CASHCAD45]

After taling to meny who participated in th " BASH" (from drivers to tireguys),many said that unless major changes are made thev will not retun. Complaints ranged from the outrages $75 pit fee for all to very bad logistics getting equity & tires to and from haulers.Other complaint are painfully obvious asih flat track and winterdate ect...

[BigMac]

Saturday date at Bristol in March would be a better place to start the season.

[CASHCAD45]

That would be great,but Idoubt they will gve up the Nationwide series.

[Groundpounder]

Complaints ranged from the outrages $75 pit fee...

Now they know how all the non-WMT competitors feel at the Thompson World Series every year. I don't feel bad for them in the least on this one. I guess they can lobby Nascar to make it a regular points paying tour race so they can get in for $25 or $30 or whatever that pre-sign deal is now. The K&N series can do the same (assuming they have a similar pre-sign deal) and then the only ones stuck paying $75 will be the weekly series late model guys. Because everyone knows that out of the three divisions there, they can best afford it.