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Lap 24 6 16 4 58 14 15 44. Lap 22 caution 73 spins on backstretch
4 takes 2nd . Caution. Mod 13 crash hard.
Red flag lap 31..clean up. Roy's is ok. 6 lookin good. 4 goes back to cause of caution. Running order 6 16 4 58 14 15 44 51 2 . Goin back under caution
Lap 42 . 6 16 gettin after it. 16 .4 wants second. Has it
Lap 61. 16. 4 6 14 51 58, last two getti. At it
Lap 66.16 by 2 cars over 4 6 . Caution lap 69 . 93 22 . 93 spins
51 58 good racin . Order 16 4 6 14 58 51 45 15 89 44 22 2 5 88 28 64 99. 33 26
Cautio.n 80. 4 in it didnt c it
BigMac
06-29-2013, 08:35 PM
Speed 51 has live coverage if you want to save yourself some work.
Sorry doin the best I can. Gf lap 93. Lookin good
Stacksd up turn 2 ugh! 16 dented left rear side flat r front
Looked like 16 couldn't n turn goin into 1..lot of bent bumpers . Sat nite short track!
51 in wall as well. Still under caution. Local driver 14 . Now leader...22 (24th) to 4th
. Cars r just idling
14 15 89 22 5 28 3 93 58 99 26 2 . Is how there goin around still yellow
Gf lap ( TC fans he's back! 6 th)lap 107. 14, 22. 5 89 5. Single file
Caution! 4, 26. 26 stuck him into wall turn3.
Race wAs pickin up. 22 to 2 . TC 4th . I think 20 cars still runng
Gf lap 125( 4 ) still running.. 6 is back out. . Top 4
Race is picking up . Lap 128 . 14 22 3 5 28. 58 2 89 88
Lap 137. 3 14 2 5 22. Great racin!!!
T. By 5 ! 2 2nd and a movin
Lap 146 88 spins we still running. TC By 4 over the 2.is trying
Lap 155 . 3 in. Traffic. 2 about a car away. Solid racing
Mid pack 28 44 playing !side by side. 44 takes it
Traffic heavy for 3 . Mid pack racing
Leader getting jammed. 2 on him, can't pass though. Around the back markers now lap173
Lap 176. The 2 is trying to!
Caution lap 181. 2 into wall. 3 car made his real wide
Top 5 3 16(!) 58 14 22. Goin get crazy gf lap 193, spin 3 car .
They r saying spun the tires. 16 58 14 22. Red flag
3 car spun from off4 . Slide into parked pace car. Wow
Pace car. No more pacing. There is a back up though. Tell you16 car hauling, crash, driving the wheels off it. 58 looking good to
Restart thinkin might be interesting...16 14 58 89 22. TC is still running though a smoking l rear.
G w checker. TC pits.before they wen green .
TC back out . Out again ( pits)Gf 16 93 58 finish 16
Hope it made sense.. 16 dented worn out and to checkers.
ModTourMan
06-29-2013, 09:44 PM
Thanks for the updates!
JWfor8x
06-30-2013, 12:51 PM
good updates
Here are some of my observations.
Glad that Coby wasn't hurt as he hit the wall a ton after his throttle stuck in qualifying.
John Beatty ran a great race to finish 3'rd.
Preece really had an amazing run, well deserved win.
When there was racing, it was terrific but there were also 92 laps under caution and 2 red flags.
I guess I am just too old fashioned but I will never understand the need for the wave around rule nor will I ever like it. In the old days, if you were lapped, you stayed lapped unless you were able to pass the leader. Now, if you're the first one a lap down and there's a caution, you are given an entire lap. Oh well, I don't have to like it and I certianly can't change it.
I've seen a lot of races over the years and that's the first time that I have ever seen a pace car hit like that. Good that there were no injuries. All in all, I thought it was a wierd combination of some really great racing and some parts that were pretty disappointing.
limodmaniac
06-30-2013, 01:34 PM
At some races this year, they have been quick to put out the red flag, to give us more laps of racing. Though they did that last night, there were a couple of other times, I would have thrown the red to give us even more green flag laps.
Coby wreck was the biggest bummer of the evening for me.
Preece put on quite a show.
Goodale was running behind TC in 3rd place, with Beatty along side him. Yellow came out for TC, and they line up again. Shouldn't Goodale have been placed in 2nd instead of Beatty? Goes back to last lap completed, doesn't it?
Preece won $7745 for winning ( including all Nascar bonus money, 2700 in gamblers money, 745 lap money, 500 Ewanitsko Hard Charger and 200 from Barker Brothers)
Lap money - Beatty $775 , Preece $745, TC $620 and Silk $570
With other bonus money, lap money, etc.. Beatty takes home $2675, Goodale $2600, Heagy $2300, Silk $1945, TC $1620
Timmy Solomito - $300 top Riverhead Regular
Woody Pitkat - $200 Maniac Dedication Award
WEEZER
06-30-2013, 09:22 PM
What an awesome race, guess thats why nascar chose ryan preece for it's nascar next program. Feel bad for tc. The lapped cars racing up to the pace car before pitting was confusing, especially for newbies to racing. Never seen a race were the leaders wreck twice during the race.
JWfor8x
07-01-2013, 02:23 PM
Hi Jim, you asked...
<<<Goodale was running behind TC in 3rd place, with Beatty along side him. Yellow came out for TC, and they line up again. Shouldn't Goodale have been placed in 2nd instead of Beatty? Goes back to last lap completed, doesn't it? >>>
According to the track announcer, Bob Finan, NASCAR ruled that Goodale had stopped on the track and that's why he was placed after Pennink. I didn't see him stop, but maybe he did. It was pretty obvious that Goodale believed he should have been placed behing TC. It's all hindsight but as it turned out, that could possibly have cost him the race although probably not, the way Preece ran.
limodmaniac
07-01-2013, 04:29 PM
You are talking about a different incident. That was earlier in the race, and I'm not sure I agreed with that call either.
The one I"m talking about was right at the end ( when TC spun) TC and Preece were front row, Goodale was 3rd and Beatty 4th. When TC spun, the yellow came out. Shouldn't they have gone back to the last completed lap and place Preece on the pole, Goodale in 2nd, and Beatty 3rd?
But they put Beatty in 2nd and Goodale stayed in 3rd.
WEEZER
07-01-2013, 09:40 PM
Did tc spin his tires on that restart or did he get help? It happened so fast
Rob29
07-02-2013, 02:33 AM
Did tc spin his tires on that restart or did he get help? It happened so fast
He spun the tires and then got spun by Goodale. Though TC claims he spun the tires because Preece jumped the restart for what it's worth.
JWfor8x
07-02-2013, 12:44 PM
You are talking about a different incident. That was earlier in the race, and I'm not sure I agreed with that call either.
The one I"m talking about was right at the end ( when TC spun) TC and Preece were front row, Goodale was 3rd and Beatty 4th. When TC spun, the yellow came out. Shouldn't they have gone back to the last completed lap and place Preece on the pole, Goodale in 2nd, and Beatty 3rd?
But they put Beatty in 2nd and Goodale stayed in 3rd.
Sorry, but I have no answer for that. I didn't get a real good look. All I saw for sure was TC spinning and slamming into the pace car. I know the incident happened after they took the green, but I don't know the rule. Do they go back to the previous lap or are they placed where the transponders say they are when the caution comes out?
Rob29
07-02-2013, 07:31 PM
Sorry, but I have no answer for that. I didn't get a real good look. All I saw for sure was TC spinning and slamming into the pace car. I know the incident happened after they took the green, but I don't know the rule. Do they go back to the previous lap or are they placed where the transponders say they are when the caution comes out?
Typically it is last completed lap. For example, early in the race when TC spun to bring out the first caution Preece had just completed a pass on Silk for the lead exiting turn four. The caution came out and Silk was back in the lead.
However I really have no answer for LIModManiac for why Beatty was moved up instead of Goodale. Didn't make sense to me. But Goodale didn't say anything about his placement there. He wasn't happy with his placement earlier in the race when he came to a stop to avoid the spinning Donny Lia. They placed him pretty much second to last on the lead lap (and it was early so that's far back). He was quite angry about that one.
MJProcko
07-03-2013, 11:34 AM
I don't know the rule but I thought Nascar does not go back to the last completed lap. I thought they freeze the cars in position at the time of the caution by the transponders. Then if the race was waved green and TC spins bringing the caution back out a few seconds later would not the field then be frozen at that time making it entirely possible that Beatty inched ahead of Goodale. Again not sure how Nascar does it anymore, just my guess.
Speaking of Beatty though - great run, how many thought he'd be contending for the win late in the race? Great Job!
Rob29
07-03-2013, 08:23 PM
I don't know the rule but I thought Nascar does not go back to the last completed lap. I thought they freeze the cars in position at the time of the caution by the transponders. Then if the race was waved green and TC spins bringing the caution back out a few seconds later would not the field then be frozen at that time making it entirely possible that Beatty inched ahead of Goodale. Again not sure how Nascar does it anymore, just my guess.
Speaking of Beatty though - great run, how many thought he'd be contending for the win late in the race? Great Job!
In the Cup Series they freeze the field at the time of caution and then go back to the last scoring loop. But at a place as tiny as Riverhead the only scoring loop is the S/F Line. So they typically go back to last completed lap. Again, I go back to my example of TC's spin to bring out the first caution. Preece completed a pass on Silk for the lead just before the caution came out. But when they organized the lineup they put Silk back in the lead.
Hell of a run by Beatty. Very impressive. I'd still like to know what would have happened should Timmy Solomito not overheated, but it is what it is.
limodmaniac
07-04-2013, 07:30 AM
My only guess is that Every car passed the finish line before they threw the yellow, so that lap counted.
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