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oldschool
06-02-2005, 08:12 PM
It funny how things work out. I hope D.J. calls and lets him know he's thinking about him. What an a$$.

Jeff T
06-02-2005, 08:40 PM
More than anything, I feel sorry for his father Steve Hmiel. The man has certainly tried to guide him to a successful career, but now that may all be for nothing. Considering this is his second suspension on the same violation, it could spell the end of a career. He has been one, if not the only, who has been granted a second chance after being found in violation of the NASCAR substance abuse rule. Now that too, has gone down the tubes. I wonder if Tim Richmond (who was not guilty after being set up by NASCAR's testing physician, but treated as guilty), and Kevin Grubb had a second chance as Hmiel did, would they have wasted it Hmiel did? I imagine not. Sometimes "Cocky" can be translated into "Stupid" when it comes to issues such as it has for Shane Hmiel. He was already on probation for the Jarrett incident, and was already caught once on the dirty side. A better use of common sense should have prevailed, but unfortunately did not.
Let's hope that the 2 seats (1 Busch, 1 Craftsman Truck) that have opened up with Hmiel's suspension will be given to a pair of drivers that are both appreciative and in need of a good ride. Let's also hope that the sponsors on the machines Hmiel drove are not giving up on a the sport because of their drivers lack of respect to the fans, the cars owners, the sponsors and to the sanctioning body's rules and regulations by being nailed once again for his own stupidity by being caught for a second time by NASCAR's drug testing policy.

Wheel Racing
06-02-2005, 10:18 PM
I guess we know what's really in "WinFuel" now

What a shame, "some folks you just can't reach"

Geno
06-02-2005, 11:00 PM
Again??
What a shame..really for his dad.
I guess the saying 'don't know what ya got 'til it's gone' applies here.

Mortgage Guy
06-03-2005, 12:39 AM
If this guy gets a third chance, I would have a big problem with NASCAR, and I don't care who his dad is...If anyone has Dick Berggren's magazine "Speedway Illustrated" with Carl Edwards on the cover, go to page 24 and read the article on him (Hmiel)...Bones hit it right on the head with his PUNK attitude and now it bit him in the a$$. My one question is who do they put in that car now?? I say Ward Burton....

allhailunc
06-03-2005, 05:23 AM
Hey why not a third or a fourth or a fifth chance-didn't baseball give that to guys like Steve Howe & Darryl Strawberry? What I cannot fathom is how he got his Nascar license back in the first place? :mad: I wholeheartledly agree with Mortgage guy- I sure as hell will have a problem with Nascar if this character is allowed back behind the wheel of anything, including a tricycle. Shane-shame on you, you did your father wrong. :disgusted

allhailunc
06-03-2005, 05:24 AM
Also agree with Mortgage guys pick for a replacement :applause:

Jones44
06-03-2005, 05:51 AM
Ron Hornaday practiced the car yesterday after Shane was "escorted from the garage". Nothing against Ron, but I too would rather see Ward back....

racing#s
06-03-2005, 07:04 AM
It really makes no sense, shows how pitiful he is. If you're ALREADY on suspension & everyone's already watching you like a hawk... WHY would you do any drugs again? Does anyone know what drug he can't seem to keep away from?

The Bullfather
06-03-2005, 07:13 AM
Why do people smoke???? They're addicted! It's sad, we all can say stop, but we're not the ones with the problem. They don't have control, they'll act like they do, but when the craving comes along, if feeds on their minds. I work with youth, and we have a big population of homeless people my church helps out with. I see it all the time, it's the same with alcOholics. :-|

Mortgage Guy
06-03-2005, 07:47 AM
Well put Bullfather, I just would understand it more from the youth or homeless people, then I do a guy like this who has the world watching him, it's not like "everyone" in NASCAR is doing it...Just him...especially at this stage of his career, probably in the best ride as a DEI affiliate team, addict or not, weigh the consequences before you hit the bong.. Not enough people do that, unfortunately.

allhailunc
06-03-2005, 07:48 AM
True there, Bullfather, however some of us "alcoholics" not only stop, we beat it. It's all in the power of the will. Sure, the cravings are there, but I know I'd be right back where I left off. Obviously, Hmiel doesn't give 2 chits and craves his "drug" more than his career.

debbie33
06-03-2005, 10:43 AM
I agree with Bullfather also. But you have to also think about the fact it is not easy to give up some drugs. They say you take one hit of crack and you are addicted forever. Some people have the want, need, professional help, friends, maturity, and desire to quit.

Why wasn't he being "p" checked by his team daily to make sure it wasn't happening? When you have the world by the balls, money, fame and everything at the touch of a button you sometimes forget how and why you got where you are and it takes a quite a few tumbles to knock you back down to size.

I feel sorry for anyone who is an addict because you never know what they were before the addiction and you never know what they could have been without the addiction. I just hope he gets the help that he needs to help make the temptation just a little easier to say no to.

oldschool
06-03-2005, 12:26 PM
Its not about being addicted to something, He just thinks he's untouchable. I hope this is the last I see of him.

allhailunc
06-03-2005, 12:42 PM
A big "Amen" to that Debbie-looking back in some aspects wish it were different. I lost out on a great education because I liked "Count Smirnov" more than I should have (and to one hell of a University too). They say hindsight is better than foresight (sure can attest to that), that's why one should always try to do what they can, if not for those in need, whether it be a friend or even themselves. Sometimes this "race" to fame and fortune gets out of hand for some and the easy way out is to "party hearty". Just a damn shame that this kid will lose out on a lot of possibilities. :disgusted

Duke22
06-03-2005, 11:21 PM
I guess I agree with old school. I really rooted for him to get a second chance, but when he came back he acted like it was expected. Along with the Dale Jarrett incident, he didn't seem to appreciate what he had. It was always, "I race hard and thats that." Let him work a real job like the rest of us.

Drumz1959
06-04-2005, 04:51 AM
His attitude is his problem, because he is a spoiled punk and in his eyes he could never be wrong . I'm 46 yrs old and never met a person addicted to weed, if you hang with people that don't smoke won't either.If you'RE with friends that do smoke, then it's a good chance may smoke with them. No one wakes up and feels like they are gonna die if they don't get the cannibas setiva in the system. This kid doesn't have an addiction problem, he has an "I'm an ignorant spoiled punk" problem. Although rumor has it that he was popped the first time on more than weed, and this time that may also be the case, then I agree he needs help. Addicted to weed that gives me a chuckle. Get caught the first time, that's not good, but to be let back in a sport on one of its top levels and to do it again, shame on you. Any kind of substance abuse in racing is taboo and should not be tolerated. It's a shame, because he drove the wheels off the cars I've seen him in, but they were good rides, and good or bad, he showed he had potential. He is just a spoiled kid who felt he could do no wrong. He is ignorant, not addicted.
P.S. I gained a lot of pounds this winter and I'm gonna make a confession. I'm addicted to Ring Dings and I'm currently in an out patient program to overcome this problem.

Phantom17
06-07-2005, 08:49 AM
Everyone is saying a no tolerance rule, but what if Riverhead put in mandatory drug testing for its drivers? Would you all be saying the same thing? One rule should be for all divisions, not just the elite. Also, why is it ok to be a fall down drunk, just not use drugs? This is coming from someone who uses neither. I pray for Shane, not that I liked his antics on the track lately, but was rooting for him. Kind of reminds me of a local driver whose got it all in place to get to the top, but can't get their life in order.