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NEETS-1
01-05-2006, 06:41 PM
I am sorry if you don't see me online as much or I am not getting back to any of you as quick as I usually do but I have been fighting a virus in my computer the last week I picked up in an email. It is still not completely fixed yet so I am just signing on...doing what I have to do, then shutting down. It is not a transferable one so don't worry about going to the website.
Probably end up getting a new one after Beaters when I have time. Please do not send me any more jokes or attachments....won't open them no more, lol.

EnduroFromDE
01-05-2006, 07:14 PM
Hey billy
just got one too myself, but my AntiSpyware picked it up and destroyed it before it spread through my hard drive. do

LongIslandJam
01-05-2006, 07:17 PM
What happened Billy? Didn't get your flu shot? :lol: :rolleyes: :-B

NEETS-1
01-05-2006, 08:28 PM
One is called adware.Istbar and the other is trojan.Zlob.... Can't seem to get rid of them.

W. J.
01-05-2006, 08:39 PM
Great New York cure: Chicken Soup! :lol:

Seriously, good luck, they can be meaner than the idiots that send them out. :mad:

lefty turner
01-05-2006, 08:56 PM
Billy, sorry to hear the bad news. Virus writers should be publicly castrated (or made to ride passenger with Uncle Petey). :mad:

Two things to try. Go to www.grisoft.com They have a FREE anti-virus that you can download. Plus you get FREE updates almost weekly. They also have a section on their site that tells you how to get rid of particular viruses.

Second, don't use the email program on your pc. Use your ISP's email. That way nothing comes into your pc unless you specifically download it.

RGeeProductions
01-05-2006, 09:10 PM
Here's one

http://www.spyany.com/program/article_spy_rm_ISTbar.html

BWR
01-05-2006, 10:50 PM
well there is always reformatting it.

brucef777
01-05-2006, 11:50 PM
instructions are at the bottom


http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/adware.istbar.html

http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/trojan.zlob.html


you also might want to try scanning here:

http://housecall.trendmicro.com/

you should also get a firewall and Ad-Aware

good luck

BlingxBling
01-06-2006, 12:16 AM
Most spyware applications will just harm software, which can easily be removed and reinstalled, use space on your computer, or in rare cases actually cause major damage to your operating system. Most of the viruses people obtain aren't from emails or going on porn sites (for as much as you would actually like to believe this lie), but is actually stuff that is found wandering on your HSD lines, not even needed to be opened specifically, just needs a connection to do its work. That would be based upon your HSD company and the security they provide to cruise on their network. For those of you who still use dial up, you haven't much to worry about, the speeds aren't fast enough to process this data from machine to machine. I wouldn't suggest using most online provided sources for removal of worms, viruses, or any additional spyware problems. Most are not capable of removing the necessary files and just create more problems. You would be very surprised with how much garbage you maintain in your computers even after purchasing every product on the market. Best advice for removal of this is to learn how your computer works, how the OS functions, and that lovely thing called your registry. If not, get an apple. In most cases people who have items like McAfee and Norton are not even aware that the software has been disabled because of viruses or spyware. Usually this is discovered when it is too late, after their computers have become infested and major money is required for repair.
I went to school for this, as well as when I dealt with all of this kind of stuff when I did Technical Support for a High Speed internet company.

BWR
01-06-2006, 01:09 AM
good point there :applause: i should kill all my antispyware

BlingxBling
01-06-2006, 03:17 AM
I wouldn't suggest that, I mean spyware is the biggest problem, and the hardest to detect. So if you have a program that seems to be working, KEEP IT, hehe. I would suggest anyone who doesn't have time or the patience to keep reprograming their computer to have some sort of spyware detecting program at the absolute minimum (the better programs do manage to cost something and are not just downloadable off the computer) and if you frequent your computer, run it daily. :D

RGeeProductions
01-06-2006, 09:51 AM
good point there :applause: i should kill all my antispyware
kill all my antispyware????
I would keep my anti-spyware software.....

SmallCar18
01-06-2006, 11:41 PM
LOL I forget which program it was but there was a popular spyware removal program which actually INSTALLED some spyware!

One other tip for preventing some of the nastiest spyware and viruses is to create multiple user accounts on your computer. The account you use reguarly should have just limited privileges. It's somewhat of a pain, because it prevents you from installing most programs, but it also prevents unwanted programs from being installed without your knowlege. If you need to install a program, you just logoff, logon to an account with admin privileges, install the program, then log back in to your normal account.

Also using Firefox instead of IE will prevent a lot of it too. I do not wish to start a holy war, saying which browser is better, but since 85% of the world uses IE, the bad guys tend to target it more than Firefox.

BlingxBling
01-07-2006, 12:01 AM
Kerry that is SOOOO true! I haven't been jammed with any unwanted spybuddies on my desk top computer since I used Firefox. The Apple powerbook hasn't ever had any virus issues.

ps..how are Jake and Cody?

Mike Fields
01-07-2006, 05:07 AM
Billy, with the heavy amount of e-mail I get with attachments, I've gone through a ton of software to get rid of the garbage. The absolute best I've found is the one that lefty turner told you about, called AVG Anti-Virus from Grisoft.

The only thing he was incorrect about is that they don't update almost weekly; they do it daily from www.Grisoft.com if you have the program configured to do so. So that it doesn't bother me, I have mine set to download and install the update between 4:00 & 5:59 every morning.

Note that it often picks up the garbage that the big name software never detects.

SmallCar18
01-07-2006, 09:41 AM
I've been supporting Macs for 12 yrs now and have only ever seen 1 real Mac virus. It's funny that years ago when there was a legitimate Mac virus floating around, it suspiciously started shortly after I think it was McAfee came out with a Macintosh antivirus program.

Cody and Jake are doing good tormenting their uncle as usual :). They're hoping their daddy gets home from work early today so they can come see some good racin at BWHs.

BlingxBling
01-07-2006, 11:57 PM
Kerry, I love my mac. Ever since that issue with the logic board, no problems. LOL, that's what Uncles are for, you know that, right? For the nephews or nieces to drive them insane. Can you believe I am going to have one of my own, a child that is not a niece or nephew!??! I didn't even know that you were racing today until I saw the finish. Good job.

lefty turner
01-08-2006, 09:03 PM
Thanks for the confirmation of AVG, Mike. I only have the free version, and my update alert seems to go off every few days or so. I said 'about weekly' earlier because sometimes it is almost a week between my update alerts. But, maybe that's just the free version. I do like that function that it can check for and install updates without you worrying about them. My pc came with McAfee from the factory. When I started having problems I d/l AVG. It found a virus right away. I tried pointing McAfee directly to the file and it still didn't find it.

I was talking to a friends son who is going to school for internet security. His school rates AVG as one of the best anti-virus programs available to the public.