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  1. #1
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    I didn't mention anyone in particular (nor did anyone else IIRC) even though the incident occurred right in front of where I was sitting. While we are being so pointed, I will ask a question. (caution:long winded question ahead) This is a, according to the rules, "entry level division". So if you are a lap down and you get the move over flag, you are supposed to yield to the inside and let the "leaders" by. That having been said, those same "leaders" saw the same flag pointed at those same lap down car(s), yet they do the same dive to the bottom of the corner move each lap. Is everyone with me so far?? Now if the pass of the lap down car(s) happened on the straightaway, the lap down cars have scooted down and the "leaders" move effortlessly by, no harm, no foul. If there are three lap down cars nose to tail, this gets sticky. Aren't the "leaders" supposed to be: (choose which ever seems to fit best in your own opinion here) to the outside, since they are faster, or somewhat more experienced and able to negotiate this quickly and in a sportsman like manner, or to exhibit some judgement, since every situation is different. Now before I get the feedback I'm anticipating, I realise the slow guys push up in the corners and all of that. It is just to my observation, not happening like it should.
    The incident in question may have started out as unintentional, the results were somewhat different in my view.
    Art Bichsel
    Edit: here's an example of what I am talking about:
    http://www.racerhub.com/forum/attach...8&d=1186363385
    In this picture the 18 is overtaking the slower 7 on the outside and the 60 is getting ready to do the same thing.
    It really used to happen this way.
    Last edited by W. J.; 08-06-2007 at 03:37 PM. Reason: Cus I found a picture and I'm still feeling a little punchy.....

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    You're right, everyone could have there opinion. There's mine. Also you don't have to say who you were talking about, we all know who this is referring to. Since he doesn't even have a computer, I was speaking in his defense. I wasn't looking to make this such a big deal. Just stating my opinion.

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    So glad we had just posted the picutre you needed Art. LOL! It was and is a very good example of racing, and I like the way you laid out your question (theory) about how that should work.
    Where did everyone go????
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    Hey art, there was more than one driver who didn't understand the MOVE OVER flag in the bb race, which probably cost Fred the win.

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    Leah, I didn't bash anyone. I stated how I felt about a 30 lap double point race when my car gets taken out on lap 5. As a car owner I am entitled to that, just as you are. The driver came into my trailer twice and he and my driver discussed it in a professional manner. Done deal, all forgiven.

    The fact remains that this division is supposed to be entry level. That is why my driver is racing in the Blunderbust. We could afford to race in any division, but we are going at it one step at a time.

    The fact that some drivers don't have sponsors is a shame. Maybe they should call JTL Enterprises and become a client. JTL Enterprises currently represents 4 race teams. (Sorry W.J., please don't consider this advertising).

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    Last installment of "the cranky spectator"

    WEEZER, I hear ya'. I saw it, Bob Finan saw it and said as much over the PA. I think the change is coming at RR, just it isn't going to be "instant". My frustration at the lack of courtesy in all divisions is what keeps me from visiting more often. I learned a long time ago to be careful in how I "finger-point" since there are two (or more) sides to everything. So when I see racecars look more like the little balls in the lotto machine on TV, I wonder what happened to the way it was before all the nonsense.

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