Let's Replace the Top Ten Race Next Year

[KennyWallace81]

Why don't we replace the top ten race with a "Non-Winners" race at the end of next year. Although it was fun for me, there were too many people who skipped the race because they had a lot to lose if they had issues in the top ten race and then didn't pass tech. inspection.

I think it would be better if we had a race where anyone who won any NEETS event in the last two years was excluded. The remaining cars who made at least 75% of the races would be eligible. You could collect an extra $5 for registration at each race and use it to fund the payout of that last race. The potential downside would be that you'd probably want to shorten the Mutha race to say 125 laps instead of 150. You could make the "Non-Winners" race around 50 laps. This could increase interest for those who are out of the points at the end of the season.

[69racing]

I would have loved to run this year's race if I hadn't blown a head gasket in the Mutha.

I like the idea of a "non-winners" race. I agree with exclusing cars that have won in the last 2 years & have made at least 75% of the races. I don't know if I would want to run 50 laps on top of already running 125-150 laps in the Mutha. Maybe a 20-25 lap shootout?

[KennyWallace81]

I was hoping that the post would get some interest and ideas. I guess I'd base the number of laps on the number of participants. Maybe something like 10 laps for 5 cars, 15 laps for 10 cars, etc. I just think a non-winners race would draw more interest than the top ten race and it also might encourage a few drivers to make the last race of the year if they were out of the points, not necessarily the fastest car, but still wanted a shot to win something.

[Erin C]

Hey Kenny! We are always up for suggestions! Although I hate to stray away from the top 10 race at the mutha since we have been doing it for a very long time, this could be an idea for an added race at another event or even a change up from every other year...

We are also trying to think up ways to generate more interest, we have had multiple people ask us about spreading the purse out a little and I devised a new purse structure that Joe is going to look at and give the final yay or nay on...what I came up with was a purse that still is big money to the winner but the rest is spread out a bit more, and much like our prorated purse now, the amount of people getting paid would be prorated as well...how I calculated it was that 20% of the entrants would be walking away with something...but again, I have that pending approval for now as I took everyone's suggestions and made a new table and it will be discussed.

If anyone has any other suggestions you are more than welcome to post up on the forum or email me or Joe, or even call Joe directly. We want to make next year and the years after HUGE!

[CAPTAIN]

I'm in for it. Will you be running 4's- & 8's together??? Could prove to be interesting!!!! YOU WANT TO GENERATE MORE INTEREST, THEN MOVE THE DEAD CARS!!! I CAN BRING ALMOST ALL THE DIAMOND GUYS TO GRANDVIEW, BUT THEY WILL NOT COME IF YOU DO NOT CLEAR THE TRACK. I HAVE ABOUT 15-20 MORE CARS THAT WILL COME IF YOU DO THE RIGHT THING.

[KennyWallace81]

Erin, you guys have been at this a long time so I defer to your wisdom and experience. BTW - I would call Joe, but he can be grouchy if you wake him up from one of his many naps

[NeetsSpectator]

Heres an idea.
First event of the year, clear the cars off of the track.
See if it brings a big car count.

[glassmanjtf]

I agree, these are all very good ideas, i also like move the dead cars but either way i'm racing and have a couple of buddies that came to the last race and are going to be building cars this winter! So thats a couple more cars!! Either way you (Erin) and Joe do a great job!

[Philter39]

Removing the dead cars makes the race no longer an enduro . Just another "street stock" race.
JMO phil

[3gracing]

I'm in for it. Will you be running 4's- & 8's together??? Could prove to be interesting!!!! YOU WANT TO GENERATE MORE INTEREST, THEN MOVE THE DEAD CARS!!! I CAN BRING ALMOST ALL THE DIAMOND GUYS TO GRANDVIEW, BUT THEY WILL NOT COME IF YOU DO NOT CLEAR THE TRACK. I HAVE ABOUT 15-20 MORE CARS THAT WILL COME IF YOU DO THE RIGHT THING.

2 or 3 of our cars would DEFIANTELY come back, plus 2 others that i just talked to!!

[tbirdracer]

how about top ten along with a few wild cards. pull car numbers out of a hat. start them up front and give them an advantage. jmo. both worlds happy!

[Poppop]

Parked cars get hit some times and some times you get wrecked avoiding them. It doesn't keep ME home.

[richardpetey]

How about starting the race off on 3 flats............................................. ..
I gotta lotta "sperience" in the tire testing field..........................
Do I put the good sneaker on the RF or the RR...............................
I'd pay to see the mad-dash to the pit entrance on the drop of the green.....................................
UNCLE PETEY...................................

[CJfilms]

That's a funny idea Petey.....LOL!!!

Non-winners race/shootout...
I LOVE that idea, but why not do it at the Junk-A-Thon since we already get a lot of cars for that race...add the $5 registration for that day only and anyone who has never won a NEETS Enduro in the past two years qualifies to run it. Winner take all - 20 laps shoot out. Small and Big separate, the $5 fee from all registrants goes only from small car drivers to small car drivers and big car drivers to big car drivers.... Obviously, previous winners will be exempt from paying the $5.

Moving Dead Cars...
This is the same old argument that has been going on since the beginning of the enduros....we ALREADY DO move cars... IF the car is not in the grove or IF there is still more than XX% of cars still racing, the car will stay where it is. However if there are too few cars left racing or if the main groove is blocked, we clear the cars.

I say that IF the drivers want to race an enduro, they should fully understand the concept of the sport. The cars shouldn't be moved at all, however due to the danger of leaving a car on the track when there are only a few cars left race at higher than normal speeds, we have to move the dead cars.....and due to the economy, we understand how difficult it is to go out and buy new and start over... We have always played it on the safe side and cleared cars on a CASE-BY-CASE basis....that is not going to change...

Remember the good old days of 200+ cars on a short track at once? There were no issues regarding moving dead cars since there was no way drivers could get up enough speed through all the traffic to hurt themselves or others....plus cars came a dime a dozen back then too....

Final word on dead cars.....once again, will be discussed at the Rules Meeting Saturday.....

[Danger83Ranger]

kenny, what makes that so great is that it was the last lap!

still to this day, I would like to see the purse restructured. the amount paid does not need to be increased, simply spread the wealth through the top 10 in each race so that more people receive a little something for their hard work. referring to the NEETS purse link http://www.neetsracing.com/purse/purse.htm
this is what I propose in regards to the average of 31-44 cars (class C) since that is the normal amount of cars in each class.

1st - $435.00
2nd - $250.00
3rd - $175.00
4th - $120.00
5th - $85.00
6th - $55.00
7th - $45.00
8th - $35.00
9th - $25.00
10th - $15.00

total - $1,240.00


Class B (21-30 cars)

1st - $320.00
2nd - $180.00
3rd - $115.00
4th - $80.00
5th - $55.00
6th - $35.00
7th - $25.00
8th - $15.00
9th - $10.00
10th - $5.00

total $840.00

anyone agree with me? I think it would make the drivers more excited. it gives the drivers who are not consistent top 5 cars a chance at winning a little mulla. the purse right now usually caters to the same individuals for the most part because they are pretty much always in the top 5. im not even racing at the moment and im sort of excited just thinking about this! lol im going to call my theory on this subject, the Rams factor! haha