Case closed? (Multiple Threads Merged)

[fastgal]

Apparently, there was still a issue and if the "issue" is still gonna happen, perhaps as I suggested, there should be a weight penalty to make up for it. I think it is a valid point for discussion. Remember, it happened 2 weeks in a row.

[RickFigure8]

If this "issue" is the use of the charger tires nothing will be done because when we took these tires, because they had run out of ours, we were told we could only buy four, but are allowed to run them as long as we wish.

Rick

[LongIslandJam]

Indeed! And you've got to realize, TK was on two-week old tires.

There was also a Figure 8 drivers meeting to discuss this. That's why we opted to close the other thread.

It was discussed last week. And the drivers had their shot to discuss it this week with track officials.

[figure849]

My hats off to George for doing the right thing.
The 28 crew was busy changing a blown rear when this meeting took place. I'm not saying Kraft can't win on the same tires everyone else has to use. I would be very surprised to see him run three week old tires, I don't believe he has since getting the new sponsor. So maybe it is over with the damage done.
I have been out of town since Saturday night's race, so not sure what may have happened to close the thread. Just had more to say.
I see no reason to stop people from saying how they feel on the Jam, not attacking anyone.
D3

[Fig8 T.K.]

First of all I went to the Hoosier truck with the intentions of buying Fig 8 tires. When I was told there were no more and I could buy Charger tires, my first question was, "How long can I run them?" I never buy tires that I think I can only use for one night. (With or without sponsorship money.) I was told I could use them as long as I wanted. Can any driver tell me what they would have done differently than I did? I did not have any idea who already bought them or who was going to buy them after me. The only reason I was buying tires again was because the tires I bought the week before were junk. Other drivers I spoke to after the race and during the week felt they were a bad batch of tires. I think the Charger tires felt better than those tires, but no different than the ones I bought opening night.

Tom Kraft

[W. J.]

Thanks for that info, Tom, I'm sure it clears up a lot of the questions that have been asked on this subject, and who better to do that than one of the drivers who had the experience. Thanks again.

[modified_fan]

Forgive me for butting in.........but......Hats off to Mr. Kraft on that win.

You, George and Roger put on one hell of a show that thrilled that big crowd!

[fastgal]

I'm sorry for making more of a problem about it, but the other thread was completely gone and I didn't get to read all of the answers of what happened. When you talk to 5 different people, you get 6 answers. . I am happy the answers were put forth in a civil manor, thanks.

[LongIslandJam]

That's why I reopened this thread...

We need clarification from Tommy... Thank you Tommy for answering...

Tommy ran on two week old tires. Hoosier tried to make do with what they had two weeks ago with a limited quantity of Figure 8 tires. It wasn't going to please everyone, but at least it was a solution.

On that note, I think this is put to rest.

[loving74]

(It) Just seems funny to me that everytime we talk about the tires, the case is always closed! (It) Just seems funny to me that the story just keeps changing! Makes me wonder what (the) real truth is! You can all believe what you want, but I believe it's all BS!

[Fkraft99]

jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez we gonna have to hear about this all year??

[figure849]

Well, when you were told that there were no f75's, and that you could buy the 45's and run them as long as you want, did anyone mark that set of tires, or did you have to hand them in at the end of the night? So how do we know that the tires used this week are not scuffs off a SPT or Charger. My guess is you have an open invitation to run a set of f45's forever. But once again, I'm sure this thread is closed /if not totally erased.

[W. J.]

No Artie, the thread is still open. I guess we will beat this 'dead horse' for some time to come, LOL!!!

[figure849]

Nascar Dodge weekly series 2006 rule book
Page 46
20f-10.8.2
c.the same tire must be made available to each competitor

So, that being said, I feel every figure 8 team has at least one set of f45 tires to be made available to them.
As far as "beating this dead horse", until every competitor has their two weeks of f45'S, THIS SEASON HAS BEEN TAINTED.

[Fig8 T.K.]

Hey, thanks for the idea. I never thought of being able to run the charger tires forever. I figured last week was my last week on the tires I bought. I do not have a problem with other cars being on the charger tires for two weeks. Artie, you are welcome to come to my car the next time we race and take my charger tires. This way, you can be sure I am no longer running them.